Loprazolam: a water-soluble benzo

[D_DOOD]

I might have an answer, the taste thing ya talking bout, that bitter metal taste, i used to have that from taking zopiclone, the non benzo sleep aid, maybe thats what you got! I remember alot of similar effects like sleep walking and having all kinds of hallucinations and delusions.

 

[paradoxcycle]

Originally posted by The Young Geezer
allright I have some Dormicums 15 (midazolam 15mgs pills) and oc40's, those 2 drugs combined took me to paradise on quite a few ocassions, I already dissolve the oc in a syringe for rectal use down to a science, about midazolam, how many mls of water doi yoou reccomedn for a 15mg pill (the blue ones)

Rectally? I would say 15 mg/3 mL solution.
It's really interesting actually... the basic nitrogen in position 2 of the imidazobenzodiazepine ring system enables midazolam to form water-soluble salts with acids.

 

[The Young Geezer]

Thanks a lot for the reply Pdx. That's the midaolam ratio we have here for IV ampoules, sorry I didn't made myseld clearer, I was talking about IV use not rectal...,These Oxicalmans pills have less binders/fillers are sorta smaller and break up inely and nicely, I might get some Midazolam ampoules today too to keep it safe, but maybe I won't be able, and will have to use the pills I wouldn't like to be shooting up my veins 3ml+ of solution. I already took 7,5mgs of midazolam orally and IV'd 20mgs of Oxicalmans dissolved in 80units (o,8ml) it kinda hurtd, but now that I'm feeling it it's totally worth it!!
I was thinking of buying also a 5mg/1ml midazolam ampoule to start with and start with 5mgs midazolam and 30mgs OC in a 1,5ml syringe if possile, 1ml would be ideal, but I think the oc won't dissolve, input is appreciated since I'm planning on doing it in about 6-7 hours. Refrain the whole shooting pills is bad speech, i might be getting USP midazolam ampoules and this oc's even though dangerous are way better to inject than contin, and I don't IV that much to begin with, so warnings are unnecesary, I'll do it nway, I might as well do it as best as possible. Oh btw, I have lot of rigs, mostly terumo and BD but they are 100units .29 1/2 or .30 gauge, I hope they work for this experiment since bigger needles tend to scare me.

-Gracias Amigos
Thanks Again
-Thanks

 

[Anthrax]

Thanks a lot for the reply Pdx. That's the midaolam ratio we have here for IV ampoules, sorry I didn't made myseld clearer, I was talking about IV use not rectal...,These Oxicalmans pills have less binders/fillers are sorta smaller and break up inely and nicely, I might get some Midazolam ampoules today too to keep it safe, but maybe I won't be able, and will have to use the pills I wouldn't like to be shooting up my veins 3ml+ of solution. I already took 7,5mgs of midazolam orally and IV'd 20mgs of Oxicalmans dissolved in 80units (o,8ml) it kinda hurtd, but now that I'm feeling it it's totally worth it!!
I was thinking of buying also a 5mg/1ml midazolam ampoule to start with and start with 5mgs midazolam and 30mgs OC in a 1,5ml syringe if possile, 1ml would be ideal, but I think the oc won't dissolve, input is appreciated since I'm planning on doing it in about 6-7 hours. Refrain the whole shooting pills is bad speech, i might be getting USP midazolam ampoules and this oc's even though dangerous are way better to inject than contin, and I don't IV that much to begin with, so warnings are unnecesary, I'll do it nway, I might as well do it as best as possible. Oh btw, I have lot of rigs, mostly terumo and BD but they are 100units .29 1/2 or .30 gauge, I hope they work for this experiment since bigger needles tend to scare me.

-Gracias Amigos
Thanks Again
-Thanks

Sounds like a interesting experiment!
Let us updated how it goes!

I can cook up one OxyContin 80mg so it fits in 1ml, but you didnt have
those.. Xanax isnt water soluable right ?

 

[The Young Geezer]

got no ampoules, reserved some for tomorrow, but I'll do this today with pills. Th coffe fuilter thing to use as a filter will be ok you think? My main concern here is dissolving midazolam in the same solution than oc, since I can easily dissolve OCs.

Tack so mycke Anthrax =P , oh and btw alprazolam is not water soluble, we have inyectabkle ampoules of it though.

 

[Anthrax]

Geezer: Pratar du Svenska?

I should first cook up the OC and then cook up the Midazolam Tab in the OC liquiud, or cook up them seperatly and then just mix together!

 

[negrogesic]

Why bring up this old shit? I dont even remember posting this crap!

Weird thing is, i was not addicted to diazepam at that time, and now, I am. But i have switched to tablets and am tapering off.....


This thread is of no informative value, not even entertainment value. Sorry for even posting this sort of nonsense, mia culpa....

 

[johnnyb420]

negro not your fault some idiot greenlighter bumps this ancient thread to take a cheap shot and preach to you about the dangers of diazepam abuse .8)

we all no what you have been going thru and i am sure this guy would not have bumped this if he new


in any case it is nice to see you posting again and i hope things are going well for you.

 

[negrogesic]

^^^^Much appreciated, im 8 months clean of heroin, down to 60mg diazepam in tablet form (this is low for me, from 380mg since december). Unfortunately, dolophine/methadone still has a pretty strong head-lock going on me, but im working on it........

But yes, dont reply to my old, nonsensical threads (i cant believe i called diazepam a "dopamine antagonist", idiotic).........

 

[johnnyb420]

good to hear.
remember its one step at a time, as long as you are stepping forward all is well

keep up with the progress

 

[Vaya]

Best wishes, man. Benzo tolerance is, well, more of a 'gorilla on your back' instead of a mere monkey. I hope one day you can also tell us "I am 8 months clean from diazepam"

 

[legalizendecriminalize]

^^^are all benzos difficult to withdrawl from? or is valium especially hard? I was using 6-10mg of xanax daily for three months, then tapered off and didn't have any problems. Now i'm using ~40mg of valium daily, should I expect an uncomfortable withdrawl after 3 months? Thanks for the knowledge.

 

[diacetyldeath]

^^^are all benzos difficult to withdrawl from? or is valium especially hard? I was using 6-10mg of xanax daily for three months, then tapered off and didn't have any problems. Now i'm using ~40mg of valium daily, should I expect an uncomfortable withdrawl after 3 months? Thanks for the knowledge.

Valium has a lengthier half-life than Xanax and most other benzos. If you tapered off that much Xanax without any problems, I think you'll be fine tapering off that much Valium as long as you're aware of the lengthier half life and how that needs to change any taper you do.

Or, switch to Halcyon.

 

[Ivanhoe]

Here in Europe (France), there's a medication called Havlane.
Each pill contains 1mg Loprazolam.
I checked the solubility, and loprazolam is "slightly soluble in water". "Slightly soluble" means that only a few milligrams will dissolve in water, but that's enough.

So I decided to shoot 2mg. I felt no rush, but after a few minutes, a very very intense benzo buzz. Really it is strong.

So these pills are very cool,
I just wanted to know if anyone have experience with Loprazolam?

I had never heard of loprazolam, midazolam always seems to be the only benzo one can shoot with water, are there other benzos that are "slightly soluble in water"?

 

[Ghettotastic_bong]

Midazolam is the only benzo which is fairly soluble in water. Several others, including diazapam have a limited solublity, but it's typically not enough to make IV useage feasable.

However, IV ampules designed for this purpose are the only thing that should be used. IV'ing pills, especially benzodiazepines is a dangerous practice unless it is done with micron filters and other proper equiptment.

 

[paradoxcycle]

Sir, you have obviously failed to notice there is not ONE but TWO threds regarding just this subject on the front page. I am merging the two more relevant threads.

 

[The Young Geezer]

Well, I know this should be mpore in trip reports but I'll keep it slow, I scraped the blue coating of a midaziolam pill tioll it was fully white, I lost about 40% scrapping it, so i had about 8mgs, I dissolved them in 1,4mgs of warm water in a bottle top and stirred a lot then like 3 mins later I added I added thinly crushed 40mgs oxicalmans (local oxycontin), they are harder to get rid of the coloring but easier to crush. Then I used the 2 needles method with coffee filters since I can't get micron filters and also filtered with cotton, anyway and got a fairly clean solution which was 1,1 mgs, perfect cause I could use a 1 mg rig with a .30 needle instead! I hate/have a phobia of bi needles, and I always pojke myself like 9times till I get to the vein, it's a total mess...amyway after poking and air coming over and over again blood came, I had registered and so I slowly pushed the p[lunger, I did 0,7 units first to try and feel the rush, very euphoric, I thught I was gonna nod right away but it was speedy and all, less than 10mins later I used a 1/2ml rig (I hate big rigs) and shot the remaining 0,4mls, took m like 10 pokes to register too, but it got me really fucked up, but extremely, I have partial amnesia, people I phoned, talked on msn too told me I was really messed, I nodded on the desk, the keyboard was my pillow, I felt great though my blood had stopped flowing and I couldnt feel 3/4 of my body, I went to bed enjoyed, snorted some 20mgs oc and did some benzo )dont remember which I had a plethora,someone I talked to mioght remember) and I nodded with the tv on and trash on the floor with the blinds up not being bothered by the morning sun, it was a 14hpour nod not sleeping, well a mix of nod and sleep, it was awesome, like being in a womb, and at low doses with some stimulant I can see it having recretional potwential, I can't wait tpo get the USP midazolam ampoules and try it in a safer more calculated manner.
Oh Anthrax: jag pratta litte svenska, min pappa ar svenskt.

 

[Synto]

I just wanted to say I wish you the best on quitting benzos/opiates. I'm currently withdrawling like mad from alprozolam and oxycontin. I had a seizure which sent me to the hospital about a week ago, directly to inpatient detox by hospital after that, and then to inpatient rehab (where I nearly had another seizure due to stupid doctors). I've been released from inpatient rehab, but have to continue outpatient rehab 3hrs a day, every day for 6wks and then once a week for 6wks more. I'm not sure of the amount of benzos you are on, but I know the addiction is a bitch.

 

[Anthrax]

Here in Europe (France), there's a medication called Havlane.
Each pill contains 1mg Loprazolam.
I checked the solubility, and loprazolam is "slightly soluble in water". "Slightly soluble" means that only a few milligrams will dissolve in water, but that's enough.

So I decided to shoot 2mg. I felt no rush, but after a few minutes, a very very intense benzo buzz. Really it is strong.

So these pills are very cool,
I just wanted to know if anyone have experience with Loprazolam?

I had never heard of loprazolam, midazolam always seems to be the only benzo one can shoot with water, are there other benzos that are "slightly soluble in water"?

I have shot Clonazepam pills, Flunitrazepam pills and Oxazepam pills,
well i felt a small effect from them but it is DANGEROUS to your veins!
Its just not worth it.... You can get the same effect if not better IV or
Rectal !

 

[Ivanhoe]

Clonazepam, Oxazepam and Flunitrazepam pills contain binders that I would not shoot,
but The binders in Loprazolam pills are ok (for me) to shoot.