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Opioids Loperamide (Imodium) Megathread v. 2

I was in wds wich was dumb cause I was in my last day or 2 but I'm not gonna sit here and bs u it was dumb but it totally got me faded wich is weird I heard if you've had meningitis it breaks down your BBB so it doesn't work as efficiently and I've had meningitis and I'm wondering if that had something like to do with me getting heavy opiate effects from lope not just taking me out of wds it really got me faded itchin like crazy pin sized pupil whole nine yards
 
It was dumb tho I wouldn't recommend anyone trying what I did I was still in some shitty wds from atleast a half an 8ball a day habit of some really good black smoked
 
Does anyone know what a good dosage of lope would be for someone who is on day 3 of kicking an 8mg Dilaudid/day (insuffulated) habit? A very good friend of mine has decided to make the choice to quit her habitual usage and I am just trying to find something that will make the wds more tolerable. She has endured three days of feeling like absolute shit so far; I was thinking 10mg in the morning when she wakes up and then 6mg 2 1/2 to 3 hrs before bedtime, tapering down by 2mg daily until day 7 at which point the wds should be manageable without lopes. Does this sound like a solid plan? Any and all feedback will be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
 
Sounds like a solid plan to me. Maybe even slightly less lope. Also 40mg of omeprazole like an hour prior washed down with some GFJ. Should be a relatively easy withdraw.
 
Well, last night she went to one of her girlfriends houses, and I know that when she goes there she tends to get fucked up. Pretty much positive that she relapsed, she has a very addictive personality. I told her that I had some things that would help her a lot with her wds but she didn't seem all that interested, and I know if someone is going through wds, they will do what they can to make it better or at least tolerable. Trying to help someone help themselves when they are not committed to quitting hurts a lot. She truly has a heart of gold and wants to quit but I believe her so-called 'friends' are enabling her. This shit breaks my heart man :(
 
this stuff was a lifesaver for me when i was withdrawing. my withdrawals still sucked theres no way around that, but it made me just a little more comfortable and able to relax and took my mind off of the hell i was going thru somewhat. good riddance heroin
 
So I've been tapering with loperamide (2mg) for a few days now and decided to drop it down to 1mg but I got wd symptoms and I'm really busy this week so just took another 1mg 6 hours later and then 2mg the next day. Almost all the symptoms are gone except the chills, which are pretty bad. I feel great otherwise, don't think I'm sick and these definitely feel like wd chills/sweats. Any idea why this would happen and any solutions? Also, how bad is jumping from loperamide? Because just going down from 2mg to 1mg seemed pretty damn bad considering its supposed to have a long half life.
 
She will get to a Point where she will just get over this circus, over this cycle and she'll be done with it then she will want your help and your support and she will need you to be there for her so please be there on standby ok!

Rtp
 
Of course. I will be here for her when she needs me.. Unfortunately, I am a person too who has their own struggles and I need her as well. I guess I'll have to be 'the man' and suck it up until she's ready to quit and has had her fill of partying, fucking strangers and doing drugs.
 
Thank you for helping me to see that I'm not the only one in this boat. I run out too fast then turn to kratom. Talk abt $$! I just tried the lope for 1st time yesterday and i was very happy with the results!
 
IMO, lope is the single most important OTC drug a person should have in their kick kit. No worries about not moving your bowels either, as you're most likely used to the constipation from ask the opiates anyway.
 
Sykriss said:
Of course. I will be here for her when she needs me.. Unfortunately, I am a person too who has their own struggles and I need her as well. I guess I'll have to be 'the man' and suck it up until she's ready to quit and has had her fill of partying, fucking strangers and doing drugs.
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Doesn't sound like you're having a ball atm either, you know no one will change their ways until they find a reason to.

Maybe you don't want to be that backstop waiting.... Just saying :/

Rtp
 
Just wanted to chime in the name of HR. In the past, I used Lope for w/d's to some success. Sometimes a ton 100mg+/day, sometimes reasonably 15-20mg/day always for a week or less, no probs except some constipation, easily resolved with some laxative. This last time was different however, I think because I tried 'potentiation'. I wasn't being as cautious as usual, my wife just died from a heart problem caused years ago from drug use. She'd been clean a couple years, but sometimes you still have to pay the piper, sadly. :( (Another thing to remember for HR sake, but that's a different thread) Well, opioid detox is bad enough, but during grieving, it's downright unbearable, so I decided to stack 140mg lope on top of 1 gm of Tagamet, hoping I might actually feel good. Bad idea. I ended up with chest pain, urinary retention and the nasty stomach pain. Three days and no lope later, my pupils are still pinpricks, and my gut is barely beginning to move. So, for me, if I use it again to detox, either no Tagamet, or a VERY low dose of lope. And to end, that combo I took made me feel more dysphoric than I did before I took it for w/d's. Cheers.
 
I may be insane but i used loperamide for withdrawl and it worked fairly well never more than 50 mg and when im craving opiates i will take 20-30 mg and it will get rid of my cravings so its helped me alot but i swear i get an opiate head space with loperamide very slight but very much so present euphoria at doses above 20 mg only side effect is constipation but better than diahrea!
 
Tryptomaniacs said:
I may be insane but i used loperamide for withdrawl and it worked fairly well never more than 50 mg and when im craving opiates i will take 20-30 mg and it will get rid of my cravings so its helped me alot but i swear i get an opiate head space with loperamide very slight but very much so present euphoria at doses above 20 mg only side effect is constipation but better than diahrea!
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Yeah, it is useful, I just took it to an insane level. It's definately been shown to cause cardiac issues in people, but generally well above what you took and over long time periods. I ran into trouble when was taking 3-4x what you were on top of 1000mg Tagamet. I will use it again if needed, but not as much and without the enzyme inhibitor. That last experience scared me.8o
 
6 years of near-constant IV heroin use and I can't believe I've only ever tried lope once before tonight. Tried to get a jump on the worst of the withdrawal and took 20mg at around 24 hours since my last dose. Habit has been what most would classify as mild lately, maybe $40 on a very good day, but I can survive on $20 if I have to (and most days I do).

I dunno, it seemed to hit me really fast and alleviated all symptoms, but around three hours later I started to feel like it was only masking the withdrawal, and that the withdrawal was "bleeding through" as it got worse. I don't see how that works since I thought lope was a receptor agonist, albeit targeting peripheral locations like the gut instead of the brain directly.

I mean, I can function now if I have to, so for that it is definitely a viable failsafe, but I wouldn't put it much higher over gaba/pregablin; at least not yet. I can't sleep and am super restless, and have watery eyes. For some reason these are the only two symptoms, so I guess I'll take that. Just my experience so far.
 
I took Loperamide for two years, first year i took 30-60mg's every other day ( 30 pills on average of 2mg ) and then about 400mg every other day for 5 months, for I.B.S and for opiate withdrawal then eventually a shitty buzz. . .

long story short, i had a fainting spell, and broke my foot - which then lead to me getting of Loperamide due to it's awful heart effects. . . the withdrawal is weird and nasty - not similar to an opiate withdrawal, even with morphine i was getting hot and cold rushes, shivers, tingling/numb/electric feeling on my face/body. . . depression and mania/psychosis. . . was awful . . .

i'm on week two and still feeling awful, I wen't to the E.R to do a full exam to make sure i wasn't having a stroke. long story short, after Chest X ray's, CT/MRI of chest/lungs, Ultra sounds of legs/arms to rule out blood clots, blood work and an Electrocardiogram ( as well as 3 hours of monitoring my heart ) everything was ruled out fine, except i developed Gastritis. . . which caused my throat to be slightly closed/swollen feeling. . . as well as a slight-decrease in breathing/taking full breaths seemed hard/labored. . .

I'm in the okay zone now - but it frightens me i read people saying they continue to take heroic doses whilst getting double vision/numb/tingles in their hands/headaches and chest pains . . .

get the hell off this crap!

it's good in small doses for withdrawal but using it in high doses to get "high," worst mistake you could do - you'd be safer doing heroin than this shit at those doses.
 
Not sure if you're still looking for advice.. but for ME.. I would take 6 lop pills prior to my WDS. A person usually knows when they're coming. Anyways by the time they kick in will be between 30 to an hour, some have said upto 2 hrs. Anyways.. that helped take so much of the hell out of the WDs. I took 4 to 6 pills a day for 5 days and I couldn't fucking believe how well it worked. Btw I was doing about a bundle and half a day. I go through 3 months of getting wasted...... then use the lops to get off... for travel, family etc. Good luck
 
Perhaps someone had mentioned these things, but:

1) Extremely high doses of lope can fuck with your heart and kill you, something about sodium channels (maybe why it makes me pee constantly, jeez); and

2.) Liquid magnesium citrate can be found in laxatives section and is very cheap, st least it is here in the NE USA....if you are risking fecal impaction, drink that. You will shit your brains out.
 
What is your opinion on loperamide, does it prolong the withdrawals? In my last withdrawal from methadone and diazepam, i was finally fucked when i was also cut off of from lyrica, due to some strange and not logical rules of this inpatient rehab that i attended. They even gone so far as to test my urin for lyrica. So i was desperate and took 20mg loperamide. It really helped for the most symptoms. Only sleep was still bad maybe from the lack of diazepam and lyrica also. But when the loperamide wear off the intensity of wd almost increased. It seems a mu agonist is a mu agonist and that this will prolong the withdrawals. Now i am on a rapid taper from 800mg morphine. I think that's not a high dose and don't expect anything bad or unusual. At least i don't have to also quit diazepam because i have done this last month with a very slow taper over 6 weeks.
 
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