Kratom Looking for valued opinions on Kratom 7oh products.

[callthe304]

If anyone got some advice I’d really appreciate it. I got CRPS (Complex Regional Pain Syndrome) and honestly the pain is bad, like real bad. Some days it’s like my whole body on fire, like stabbing and burning nonstop. It just doesn’t let up even with the meds. It’s got so bad I can’t really do much anymore, even just normal day stuff is hard as hell.

I’ve been on oxycodone for a while now, usually around 30mg a day just to even handle it. Some days that still ain’t enough. My doctor’s talking about putting me on methadone now since the pain just keeps getting worse and nothing else really helps much anymore.

I’m new to this kratom stuff and don’t really know much about it. Was hoping someone here could tell me how it compares to the pills I’m on, like is there any kind of equal dose or what? And do most people just take a whole tablet or break them up?

Sorry if I sound dumb or whatever, just wanna learn more since all I see is bad news on TV. Any help or if anyone wants to say their own opinion I’d appreciate it a lot. Thanks.

Little bit extra info on me: Small town girl, Little to none resources in my area let alone information other then you can gather on the internet with very broad mixed opinions. Any info or experiences on tackling this on would help greatly.

 

[junkequation]

I have not specifically taken 7OH, and I hope that I never try it. Every opiate I find more or less the same. I don't have pain but some sort of anxiety, social phobia that opiates instantly cure, initially. I've used kratom to stay high when I lost access to a stronger opiate. I'm almost certain that the 7OH, at the right dose, will work almost exactly like the oxycodone. At a high enough dose, it'll cause intense euphoria and vastly improve your perception of pain. It will also lead to a never-ending, increasing tolerance where the pain relief effects are less and less while undesirable effects get worse and worse.

I imagine if you try it, taken along with your oxycodone, it'll flood your receptors with even more mu opioid receptor agonists, make you feel really good and significantly help with the pain. Over time, your brain will try to adjust to the medications, you will cease production of your own endorphins, then the receptors will start to downregulate. You will need to buy more and more to get the same relief, then just to avoid withdrawal symptoms.

I am sympathetic for people who are in a great deal of pain. I don't think we have a good treatment for it. Opiates are miracle cures short term, a path to hell long term. Were I to be in constant, unbearable pain, I think the I'd rather resign myself to a lifetime of methadone maintenance. But first I'd look for any other possible path. Already 30mg daily of oxy is going to be really, really hard to get off of. The further down this path you go, at some point it becomes almost impossible to change your mind.

 

[Deleted member 81238]

How about Dilaudid?

 

[Esperighanto]

I've used a fair amount of opioids in my life dealing with chronic pain and 17 surgeries total so far (15 abdominal 2 oral). I would personally try to taper down to maybe 15-20mg of oxycodone a day if you can, and then start with 40-50mg of 7-OH per day to replace it, then over time try to taper that down to 20-40mg a day. Taking it alongside normal mitragynine, cimetidine, and/or a couple grams of normal kratom leaf can dramatically extend the effects you get in my opinion, use these when at a lower dose or when tapering to have the easiest time possible.

As far as sourcing it goes, avoid gas station and smoke shop pressies, you're paying 10x or more what it's actually worth. Check out the 7-OH subreddits and buy pure extracts that aren't compounded into pills yet. It's dramatically more cost effective, and you can then put it into your own tincture, gel caps, gel tabs (like you would LSD), I made some lean out of it and smoked some personally. Also keep in mind that if the extract you get is, say, 75% active alkaloid, you'll need (1/0.75)*(desired amount of milligrams) to get your dose right.