yo man quit evreything one by one. If you try to quit evreything at once u will throw ur body into shock. Atleast thats how i feel. First you gotta quit the dope,then the subs,then try to eat healthy,n last i think should b the cigaretes.Take it easy on urself man stop adding pressure. Anyways hows it goin wit ur sub usage?
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skinnylegz
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^ That should be a sign to raise your suboxone dose.
Have you tried any meds to help that arent opiates?
Bojangles69
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Jake I've met you before in real life lol.
I WISH you would have told me more about your anxiety issues because *I* use to suffer myself from panic disorder, PTSD, and various other social phobias.
I still have your # and I'd like to talk to you on the phone buddy, give me a call sometime.
I WISH you would have told me more about your anxiety issues because *I* use to suffer myself from panic disorder, PTSD, and various other social phobias.
I still have your # and I'd like to talk to you on the phone buddy, give me a call sometime.
Bojangles69
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I think he was just reiterating that subs is the only thing he has ever taken, which is an opiate, so the answer would be no (but not quite lol).
I also know he took xanax at one point for anxiety but xanax isn't going to do a single thing for him except keep delaying the issue and rebounding his anxiety 2 fold worse.
For whatever reason he has anxiety, he claims to worry all day, and I use to do the same thing. I also use to have panic attacks (sometimes 4 times a day) and all sorts of weird episodes where I'd be in public and would just have to go hide in a bathroom, or lock myself in my car because I was so anxious for no real reason.
I hate to say this, but pods actually fixed that problem. I had these anxiety issues prior to opiate use but once I started using I became so complacent, unconcerned about life that my thought process began to slow down and stablize A LOT.
Once I got off pods, oddly the anxiety disorders never resurfaced, but than I got hooked again for just being an idiot, and now am in a similar situation as Jake with subs just still w/out the anxiety.
I've met jake and I could tell the first 10mins he had an anxiety problem, because he went on and on about his fence accidentally breaking (I mean on and on and on and on lol - sry Jake but I'm more or less vouching for you), and was taking it to all sorts of extents that only a person with an anxiety disorder would.
But he never got in depth about how bad the anxiety was in person.
Jake w/e your deal is bro you called today and I WANT to talk to you. I CAN help you bro you know I've been trying to get off opiates for a while like you, I've also been through other situations you have, that could have triggered you anxiety disorder (such as jail - mine was triggered everyday).
Your in school bro, you're working, you're doing everything you should. I think you just need to work out somethings, and you should call me if you need a friend to talk to. Later.
I also know he took xanax at one point for anxiety but xanax isn't going to do a single thing for him except keep delaying the issue and rebounding his anxiety 2 fold worse.
For whatever reason he has anxiety, he claims to worry all day, and I use to do the same thing. I also use to have panic attacks (sometimes 4 times a day) and all sorts of weird episodes where I'd be in public and would just have to go hide in a bathroom, or lock myself in my car because I was so anxious for no real reason.
I hate to say this, but pods actually fixed that problem. I had these anxiety issues prior to opiate use but once I started using I became so complacent, unconcerned about life that my thought process began to slow down and stablize A LOT.
Once I got off pods, oddly the anxiety disorders never resurfaced, but than I got hooked again for just being an idiot, and now am in a similar situation as Jake with subs just still w/out the anxiety.
I've met jake and I could tell the first 10mins he had an anxiety problem, because he went on and on about his fence accidentally breaking (I mean on and on and on and on lol - sry Jake but I'm more or less vouching for you), and was taking it to all sorts of extents that only a person with an anxiety disorder would.
But he never got in depth about how bad the anxiety was in person.
Jake w/e your deal is bro you called today and I WANT to talk to you. I CAN help you bro you know I've been trying to get off opiates for a while like you, I've also been through other situations you have, that could have triggered you anxiety disorder (such as jail - mine was triggered everyday).
Your in school bro, you're working, you're doing everything you should. I think you just need to work out somethings, and you should call me if you need a friend to talk to. Later.
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Looking for "the answer"
Can anyone here relate to a feeling that you are always looking for an answer to life.............Im not sure what the question is (theres tons) but as an addict/ person with depression I am always looking for "the answer" Thought it was heroin but that was really the problem............
Many people think it is God or N.A. . i dont know what it is...............
I am reading some Buddhist stuff that is about acceptance and makes sense to me . instead of running from our pain , we accept it because running from it only makes things worse.........................
Am i nuts or does anyone relate?
Can anyone here relate to a feeling that you are always looking for an answer to life.............Im not sure what the question is (theres tons) but as an addict/ person with depression I am always looking for "the answer" Thought it was heroin but that was really the problem............
Many people think it is God or N.A. . i dont know what it is...............
I am reading some Buddhist stuff that is about acceptance and makes sense to me . instead of running from our pain , we accept it because running from it only makes things worse.........................
Am i nuts or does anyone relate?
Mr Blonde
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I can kinda relate, even though I am in a very self-destructive mood I do still secretly want their to be a reason for everything, a meaning to life, a point to why I am here. Haven't found it yet though OP, I'll let you know if I do. 
graugeist
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Have you ever considered that there may not be one answer to find? I take it that some of the answers you thought that you had found in the past turned out to be things that harmed you in some way? I am only basing this on your comment about how you had thought heroin was the answer at one point.
If you go through life believing that you must find the answer to everything, you may lose sight of everything that really matters.
I never found the answer when I kept looking for it. I found drugs. I thought that would give me the answer, especially psychedelics. I ended up in a pretty bad situation because of that mentality. Almost dying and coming to realize my own fragile mortality didn't help me get any closer to finding the answer. Even stopping drugs did not find me the answer.
One day I just stopped looking for the answer and started living, setting goals and reaching them, trying to improve myself, finding hobbies that I enjoy and returning to old hobbies that I once loved, and trying to appreciate life. So far that has been working out for me pretty well. I had to suffer through a lot of crazy times to get to this point, though. Hopefully something that I have written will help you out.
Whoever came up with the idea that life is a question sure made alot of cash :D
But seriously everyone is looking for meaning in their lives it's not just exclusive to addicts. Well okay some people don't look for meaning in their lives and don't question anything they just exist really. Thankfully im not like that![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
The trick is not to constantly beat yourself up over it or you will get nowhere.
But seriously everyone is looking for meaning in their lives it's not just exclusive to addicts. Well okay some people don't look for meaning in their lives and don't question anything they just exist really. Thankfully im not like that
The trick is not to constantly beat yourself up over it or you will get nowhere.
TriggerHappy
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hey Jake--
I think you would benefit a lot from studying buddhism. i got into that stuff last year while trying to kick H. it's all about finding happiness within yourself, instead of from external sources, like drugs.
meditation is also very helpful when fighting cravings.
i live in Los Angeles, and there's a group here called "Dharma Punx." they blend 12 step recovery with buddhism and punk rock. here are some links to some online mp3s. listen to the ones about addiction and "12 steps."
http://www.dharmapunx.com/htm/mp3.htm
good luck
there is an answer... it's just that the truth is different for everyone and you gotta keep looking
I think you would benefit a lot from studying buddhism. i got into that stuff last year while trying to kick H. it's all about finding happiness within yourself, instead of from external sources, like drugs.
meditation is also very helpful when fighting cravings.
i live in Los Angeles, and there's a group here called "Dharma Punx." they blend 12 step recovery with buddhism and punk rock. here are some links to some online mp3s. listen to the ones about addiction and "12 steps."
http://www.dharmapunx.com/htm/mp3.htm
good luck
there is an answer... it's just that the truth is different for everyone and you gotta keep looking