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Heroin Looking for some advice on avoiding H addiction

I disagree here about how OC or any opiate cant be chipped. Ive been chipping oxy for 6 years using 1-3 times a week every week. In those 6 years there was only 2 times where i used more than that, 5days straight and 6days straight respectively. Actually in the last 1.5 years ive been using less than i used to. Opies are my only friend and ive still managed this. It can be done. Atleast for a time...

Ive also used-Heroin-Morphine-Fentanyl(100ug patch buccally,held in mouth for 12 hours, this after 6days of no opie use)-Hydrocodone-Hydromorphone-Methadone etc.. I know im such an odd exception. Point being im not ignorant to opies.

My tolerance is ridic though, i started on 40mg of oxy when most people say 20mg should knock a noob out. So maybe ive got some wierd shit going on in my head(physically) when it comes to opies.

...Having said that Secobarbital is completely correct in all he has said. I can admit if i didnt have such high natural tolerance and as such could afford to do it all day, fuck at this point in my life i so would, theres that point where you just dont care anymore and say fuck it. Yeah it will take hold of anybody eventually. I feel it, you will feel it much quicker than I most likely.

Still so far from being addicted though. I like being dependent. :)

I'm kinda on that level at this point, but it's a money thing to some extent. I won't ever go out blowing money like I used too on pills, but I hate the 2-3 times per week I do them. It just takes a trigger, which for me was a bad relationship crashing and burning. I got the fuckits and did oxy a lot for a long time. I was also getting them cheap b/c this was when I got 80's for $30. It took years for me to get bad off, but once you go there, you can't come back. You're taking days off is what has saved you. I take days off all the time now, and rarely go for more than 3 days. I still crave them strongly all the time, and it never goes away. I have a constant war in my head, I have to constantly fight the urge to do pain pills. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. It's one hell of a burden to carry. Just be careful man, if you do ever get a good physical dependence going, it could own you too. While there are people out there that are truly impervious to addiction, its probably a 1 in 10,000 kinda thing.
 
I'm kinda on that level at this point, but it's a money thing to some extent. I won't ever go out blowing money like I used too on pills, but I hate the 2-3 times per week I do them. It just takes a trigger, which for me was a bad relationship crashing and burning. I got the fuckits and did oxy a lot for a long time. I was also getting them cheap b/c this was when I got 80's for $30. It took years for me to get bad off, but once you go there, you can't come back. You're taking days off is what has saved you. I take days off all the time now, and rarely go for more than 3 days. I still crave them strongly all the time, and it never goes away. I have a constant war in my head, I have to constantly fight the urge to do pain pills. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. It's one hell of a burden to carry. Just be careful man, if you do ever get a good physical dependence going, it could own you too. While there are people out there that are truly impervious to addiction, its probably a 1 in 10,000 kinda thing.

Brother the best way to give yourself a break is to do a taper and then go to a narcotics anonymous (NA) meeting...and another, and another. Even if it is your intention to use again, this will at least give you a break off it all to stabilize. I've been in and out of NA for 10 weeks, now 10 days completely clean. It has helped a lot and I can only highly recommend it.
 
hey, swim is looking to cop 2 grams of some killer h Tomorrow. swim has no tolerance and intends to only snort this dope. First off, swim is a recovering addict but H is not his drug of choice because he is a Polysubstance user and doesn't have one. Swim wants to avoid at all costs becoming addicted to that shit any advice? ideas? Ill have to see how it affects swim but he has ADHD and and tends to be more active under the euphoric effects from blowing lines. swim has previously gone to art museums while taking morphine sulfate 40 mg and he had a great time looking at shit
again, if anyone has strategies to avoid addiction while using their DOC in moderation (not just h) and or jus tips


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With a drug like heroin the only way to avoid addiction would be to avoid using heroin at all costs.
 
How long have you been casually using? It took me years to develop a habit because I would get sick from doing too much from time to time and go a very long time without doing anymore. Eventually an extremely nasty breakup with a girl, combined with losing two of my best friends over stupid bs tied in with said ex girlfriend triggered me into doing lots of OC for a long time and not caring if I got sick. It took a year further for me to realize why I was getting so sick. Because it still took a while for my w/d to get bad enough to be directly correlated with me running out of pills. It basically took a year for me to put 2+2 together and get 4. I think this happens to a lot of people, I'm no dummy, and I fell for it. So did all my friends. I know at least 100 people that got pulled like this. Slowly but surely until it was way way too late. This thread is proof, we've already got a good 5-6 people here saying "My life is in total ruin b/c of the poppy pod. It feels great, but don't do it."

I've been casually using H since I was 18, and I'm now 21. I won't ever get addicted to it because I don't enjoy it enough. There really isn't any way to know though if you will enjoy it more than any other drug. For me MDMA and benzos are my 2 favorite drugs, although I developed a benzo addiction and don't do that anymore.
 
hey, swim is looking to cop 2 grams of some killer h Tomorrow. swim has no tolerance and intends to only snort this dope. First off, swim is a recovering addict but H is not his drug of choice because he is a Polysubstance user and doesn't have one. Swim wants to avoid at all costs becoming addicted to that shit any advice? ideas? Ill have to see how it affects swim but he has ADHD and and tends to be more active under the euphoric effects from blowing lines. swim has previously gone to art museums while taking morphine sulfate 40 mg and he had a great time looking at shit
again, if anyone has strategies to avoid addiction while using their DOC in moderation (not just h) and or jus tips


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want to avoid addiction to heroin? DONT DO IT! good chance if u do it, youll like it and continue to do it untill you are hooked.
 
I've got a brilliant idea, if not slightly irritating. Don't take Heroin. I'm out now but when i started i was just 15yr old without much of a clue. 4 sad years, creating needs that i never had. A lot of the high is the relief. Wearing tight shoes only to take them off as the Late Alan Carr once said. Just don't put the shoes on. ;)[/QUOT

**Good Advice HERE****

Really think if you wanna be physically dependent ..
 
A lot of the high is the relief. Wearing tight shoes only to take them off as the Late Alan Carr once said. Just don't put the shoes on. ;)

That's a great analogy I haven't heard before.

But all pleasure is relative; how're you going to get that extreme relief if you don't put the shoes on? ;-p but true, heroin is a great high because it breaks you down without it, but that in itself is uncomparable as an experience. Why do normally rational people pick their face on meth? Because the feeling gets under your skin, so you have to too. (heroin at least derails *that*, by the way)
 
hey, swim is looking to cop 2 grams of some killer h Tomorrow. swim has no tolerance and intends to only snort this dope. First off, swim is a recovering addict but H is not his drug of choice because he is a Polysubstance user and doesn't have one. Swim wants to avoid at all costs becoming addicted to that shit any advice? ideas? Ill have to see how it affects swim but he has ADHD and and tends to be more active under the euphoric effects from blowing lines. swim has previously gone to art museums while taking morphine sulfate 40 mg and he had a great time looking at shit
again, if anyone has strategies to avoid addiction while using their DOC in moderation (not just h) and or jus tips


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REAL SIMPLE! don't do it as you will be addicted after only a few tries and after 1 IV try.
 
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