Methamphetanonymous
Bluelighter
Hello, I've stumbled upon a question that I'd like to find some sort of clarity if not a definitive answer to for the book I'm writing about methamphetamine in the 2020s
This is not going to be a rehash of of the same question same answer back and forth regarding the cartel and whackadoodle journalist Sam Quinones so called new meth. All available evidence points to multi-precursor ladder to P2P nitrostyrine reductive animation yielding the 50/50 enantiomer racemate which then undergoes chiral resolution for purification to a 95% plus dextromethamphetamine yield with minimal waste. I buy it, maybe some magical trace amine is throwing off the buzz of every 50-60 year old burnout who barely can remember the 90s anymore- don't care.
An interview subject of mine however who lives in Canada picks up a product in Vancouver. She allegedly pays $100 for 28grams of this meth and claims it is synthesized in China and flown into the country.
I'm skeptical but curious. On one hand that cheap of a price tag is suspicious even in 2024. Beyond that having access to 28grams and dealing out of a major city may make it plausible that her distributer knows where it's coming from.... but I've never heard of China producing meth on their home turf and would have thought the CCP would come down on that hard- hence why they sell pre-pre-pre-precursors to the cartel and not synthesized product.
If China isn't the supplying, then is it all being moved by the cartel like the lower 48s supply?
Follow up question, I was under the impression pharmaceutical companies have so overcomplicated the matrix of pressed pseudoephedrine tablets to the degree that even a foolish attempt to perform a Birch Reduction over a maybe 2 gram yield at best would not be possible to extract from the tablets and also would kill the lithium reaction needed to knock off pseudos oxygen atom? Is that the case of cold pill manufacturers in Canada as well, or is there still a meaningful presence of clandestine chemists up North making small batches of pseudoephedrine reduced meth? Is there good recent data available indicating testing results on meth siezed in Canada?
And final question: Europe. I believe an interviewee who I could not verify of course claimed that methamphetamine manufacturers in Europe all utilize the cartels P2P and enantiomer resolution production steps, and were shown how to do this by chemists from Mexico. I don't even know where to begin to find law enforcement or independent testing results on siezed product in Europe.
Bonus question: Yaba in East Asia has been around for a while now, how is Yaba synthesized? Is it racemic or high d-potency? Why do they finish their manufacture by pressing it into tablets?
Thank you! Hopefully someone can at least point me in the right direction
This is not going to be a rehash of of the same question same answer back and forth regarding the cartel and whackadoodle journalist Sam Quinones so called new meth. All available evidence points to multi-precursor ladder to P2P nitrostyrine reductive animation yielding the 50/50 enantiomer racemate which then undergoes chiral resolution for purification to a 95% plus dextromethamphetamine yield with minimal waste. I buy it, maybe some magical trace amine is throwing off the buzz of every 50-60 year old burnout who barely can remember the 90s anymore- don't care.
An interview subject of mine however who lives in Canada picks up a product in Vancouver. She allegedly pays $100 for 28grams of this meth and claims it is synthesized in China and flown into the country.
I'm skeptical but curious. On one hand that cheap of a price tag is suspicious even in 2024. Beyond that having access to 28grams and dealing out of a major city may make it plausible that her distributer knows where it's coming from.... but I've never heard of China producing meth on their home turf and would have thought the CCP would come down on that hard- hence why they sell pre-pre-pre-precursors to the cartel and not synthesized product.
If China isn't the supplying, then is it all being moved by the cartel like the lower 48s supply?
Follow up question, I was under the impression pharmaceutical companies have so overcomplicated the matrix of pressed pseudoephedrine tablets to the degree that even a foolish attempt to perform a Birch Reduction over a maybe 2 gram yield at best would not be possible to extract from the tablets and also would kill the lithium reaction needed to knock off pseudos oxygen atom? Is that the case of cold pill manufacturers in Canada as well, or is there still a meaningful presence of clandestine chemists up North making small batches of pseudoephedrine reduced meth? Is there good recent data available indicating testing results on meth siezed in Canada?
And final question: Europe. I believe an interviewee who I could not verify of course claimed that methamphetamine manufacturers in Europe all utilize the cartels P2P and enantiomer resolution production steps, and were shown how to do this by chemists from Mexico. I don't even know where to begin to find law enforcement or independent testing results on siezed product in Europe.
Bonus question: Yaba in East Asia has been around for a while now, how is Yaba synthesized? Is it racemic or high d-potency? Why do they finish their manufacture by pressing it into tablets?
Thank you! Hopefully someone can at least point me in the right direction
