Bupe Looking for a feel good coming off a bender back on bupe

[NativeAddiction]

Ill try to make it short and sweet. I had been on bupe maintenance (about 4mg intranasal daily) for about 9 months. Just over a week ago I went on a ten day Opana bender. Yesterday I went back to the bupe and snorted 2 8mg to hopefully feel somewhat normal, as my tolerance to Opana turned nasty as well as the withdrawals in less than a weeks time, crazy that Opana is.

So today I took 2 soma 1mg klonopin and half a bupe (snorted). I have tramadol, soma, subutex, klonopin, flexeril (not even worth mentioning). I heard that trams and soma are a good combo but trams always seem to make me feel like shit and tired as hell. I also have some hydros but don't plan on using those, for ER purposes only lol.

I am on 20mg adderall daily and I think that takes any kind of buzz I could possibly get down, it certainly doesn't synergies with anything I got. That being said I have a history of drug abuse, obviously and a high tolerance to everything. I'm just looking for the best combo and dose, I don't want to end up taking meds and wasting them AND the whole day by falling asleep or feeling like shit.


What about bupe snorted with some tram soma and kpin? Of course I feel like garbage and nobody's fault but mine, fucking opanas I am out the rest of my cash and feel like shit to boot, not like I didn't know better either.

 

[Znegative]

I don't think any of those meds are going to make you feel totally great when coming off an opana bender. From my limited experience with oxymorphone I've found it to be the hardest opioid to transition to bupe from. There will probably be a rocky day or two ahead of you. I would save the tramadol, and use the clonazepam and soma for when you're feeling anxious. IMO bupe and amphetamine's go very nicely together, and when your just coming off of a full agonist, sometimes that stimulation is just what you need to get out of bed.

 

[Jabberwocky]

bupe+tramadol+pins is a favorite of many, although I prefer it a lot more w/o the pins. But then again, I don't take adderall. Because you're taking an amp, try to take as little tramadol as possible, just to keep the risk of seizure as low as possible. although if you also are taking a benzo with it you shouldn't have much if any problems.

If you want to combine bupe+tramadol+pins+soma, take a lower dose of the benzo and the soma, as they're both gonna make you a little sedated/tired.

So what are you trying to do? Trying to stabilize on the bupe again? Or come off the bupe cause you've run out?! I'm a little confused...

Or are you just trying to find a safe effective way to get high considering you're still (it seems like from your post) suffering from a little w/d from your opana binge?

So, like, what's you're goal - what are you trying to achieve here?

In terms of getting back on the bupe, that'll just take time. Tramadol, soma and pins will help, but it's more about just waiting it out a couple days while taking your bupe as you used to.
If you're on bupe your hydrocodone won't do anything till it's (the bupe) all out of your system. Soma can be very nice, but a lot of soma plus a lot of benzos probably will make you get quite tired, if not simply pass out.

 

[NativeAddiction]

Well my doctor is in the midst of tapering me from the bupe, he says I've been on it long enough, can't prescribe straight bupe (only boxone now, ya okay) etc etc. The bender was just that, a bender. I just can't use opiates recreationally anymore, ever. I stupidly have never learned my lesson. I'm just glad when I have a bender its not sticking a needle in my arm because that was my thing, some strange twist of world fate made heroin totally repulsive to me after being able to remain off it for over a year. I mean of course the high is amazing, nothing like it but the whole process/lifestyle which I used to love now I just want no involvement in, I can't get arrested again either that has something to do with it.

My goal here is to try to feel comfortable/buzzed relaxed (TODAY) with what I have, and not tired and falling asleep. As for the bupe I will continue to take it everyday, yeah I may rail it but hey whos perfect anyway. I have so much experience with almost every opiate/benzo and quite the list of others, but for some reason never have taken trams, I guess besides the fact I was already told they suck. Its funny the tram is like gold to kids around my way, I guess they just be opiate naive or not really know or have experience with a real high.

 

[FlawedByDesign]

Leave the kpins out of the mix,they are most likely causing you to fall asleep. Benzos have a nasty habit of blocking out that warm euphoria you get from taking opiates alone IME. Id take the soma(which i love btw) and trams first, then top off with the bupe(throw in a little herb, if your situation permits). Leave the kpins for when you come off the sub.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Well, everyone's different. 300-400mg of tramadol with my suboxone is a combo I love and adore.

Soooo do you prefer benzo's to somas? or soma's to benzos? I'd pick one and stick with that. Have you ever taken a high dose of tramadol? Again, I don't think this is such a good idea given that you take an amp, but I'm just curious. I mean, if you don't really enjoy the tramadol, why take it at all?

I must say, personally I don't like mixing benzos and opioids either.

Here is something I'm surprised hasn't been mentioned: Tagamet!!! It's makes my bupe high waaaaay more noticable, taking 600mg with my dose. And if you're snorting your subs (as I used to) it'll be even better.

Bupe+Tagamet+Pins/Somas=awesome

 

[NativeAddiction]

Always a minute to late lol. Funny thing is, I was rx'd 2mg klonopin as needed a few years back, so for a while I was taking anywhere from 2-16 mg a day depending on how I felt. I was also railing oxy 80's at the time, and had no problems ever with respiratory depression, AND no amount of kpins, (aside from the 2 or 3 times I took the entire bottle of 60 2mgs) would make me tired! Long story short I went to rehab in '09 and since benzos are the devil to them I was tapered off completely and since then no doctor would rx them to me with my history.

Anyway my benzo tolerance was through the roof, and I know exactly what my body can handle and have always done what others would say to be dangerous combos. For me, though, this wasn't the case and the only handful of times I actually OD'd (as in had to be resuscitated) was from shooting straight china. My body has a crazy high tolerance for almost any med street or legal and it really blows nuts.

However, I recently had surgery and was diagnosed with (unrelated to the surgery, that was obgyn) bilateral thoracic outlet syndrome from scoliosis and a left shoulder impingement. In laymen's terms, I have a shitload of shoulder/neck/back pain accompanied by limited mobility and the most annoying constant numbness in my shoulders which has increased since I got 4 steroid injections in my back and neck. Even in some crazy doc was willing to rx me opioids it wouldn't even matter because my tolerance is so high that they wouldn't touch the pain. After my obgyn surgery my doc rx'd oxy 5/325 and I laughed and said really just give me aspirin, you know this isn't going to touch the pain of an ex-dope addict! I am getting off track, but my neuro doc rx'd me soma, tram, percs and just recently klonopin for the muscle spasms. I could have kissed him, I have been searching for benzos for months on end, they just are not around or no one wants to give em up!

So how this had to do with anything....oh right! So now when I take the .5 klonopin (although its never just 1) I am SO tired, and not the good nod tired. It sucks because I used to be able to eat them all day and never even get drowsy. Now I take 2 mg and I have a f*****n wandering eye, like what the hell? So a few minutes ago I ended up railing 4mg sub, eating 3 .5mg kpins and 2.5 soma and 1 50mg tram. Who knows, we'll see how I feel in an hour. I get nervous with the somas because I had the worst experience with them ever out of all pills, I was living in a sober house in California and I had just bought a junker car to get around and was about to go on a hot date so I was in a short, sexy little black dress then the next think I know I am sleeping in a potato sack in the LA county jail. Apparently I had taken half a dozen or more soma and smashed into 2 parked cars less than 500 feet from my house. God I am a mess

I know this question doesn't belong here and I'm sure some super serious nazi bluelighter will yell at me for putting it here, but is it really worth it to plug the sub, like I read bioavailablity between snorting and plugging is not so much different and honestly if it's like 10% I'de rather sniff the thing than go through the uncomfortable process of pushing subwater up my asshole. I tend to take the conventional and simpler route, but hey if it really does make that big of a difference I am willing to lay on my side and squirt subutex up my ass with a syringe. God, junkie scientists and the lengths we will go to for a good mood alteration. Cheers all, hope this combo works out for the best.

 

[NativeAddiction]

Well, everyone's different. 300-400mg of tramadol with my suboxone is a combo I love and adore.

Soooo do you prefer benzo's to somas? or soma's to benzos? I'd pick one and stick with that. Have you ever taken a high dose of tramadol? Again, I don't think this is such a good idea given that you take an amp, but I'm just curious. I mean, if you don't really enjoy the tramadol, why take it at all?

I must say, personally I don't like mixing benzos and opioids either.

Here is something I'm surprised hasn't been mentioned: Tagamet!!! It's makes my bupe high waaaaay more noticable, taking 600mg with my dose. And if you're snorting your subs (as I used to) it'll be even better.

Bupe+Tagamet+Pins/Somas=awesome

I admit naivetee on this one, I have never heard of tagament increasing high with sub. Is that like antacid over the counter? Hmmm I will google it then off to CVS I go

 

[Jabberwocky]

Given how easy it is to do, I always referred snorting subs to plugging them, if that was your question I mean. I didn't notice any huge differences in effect tbh. ya

you might theoretically get more out of the rectal BA for bupe. whatever, I still like snorting it and don't find the effects all that much less intense from doing so.

Yup, tagamet is the ppi/antiacid that is OTC. and OMFG does it work. works really well. I Loooooove tagamet+bupe.

p.s. when you have something else to say instead of creating consecutive posts/double posting please edit your original post and insert whatever you wanted to say there instead of double posting.

yes I am an otc nazi about double/triple/quadruple/quintuple posting