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Benzos Looking for a drug like klonopin or Xanax, only lasts longer.

Lorne??? said:
^ Agreed generally, however clonazolam(clonitrozolam) is the only medication that effectively treats multiple conditions, that one guy in a Tanuki Suit has; Clonazepam come close, however the doses needed are a lot, and it has a slow onset

Clonazolam, in low doses, should have been marketed, or at least taken further into the process, imo( a trinitrobenzodiazepine? Come on)
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have you managed to try clonazolam Lorne? I've had it a couple of times when it was legal here... I can still get it now but I'm reluctant.

Anyway, the reason I ask is thst I think it would be quite well suited to your personal medical needs......

so don't know how available it is in your part the world...
 
^ Yes, it really is amazing, I mean medically-it is powerful though, you have to be careful, and it certainly can knock people for a loop with powder or even liquid formulations; however it provides the unique benefits of clonazepam, with the more rapid onset of alorazolam(and anxiety stopping ability) yet a good duration;

wish it were here a bit more convenient though is legal atm
 
Lorne??? said:
^ Yes, it really is amazing, I mean medically-it is powerful though, you have to be careful, and it certainly can knock people for a loop with powder or even liquid formulations; however it provides the unique benefits of clonazepam, with the more rapid onset of alorazolam(and anxiety stopping ability) yet a good duration;

wish it were here a bit more convenient though is legal atm
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Yeah mate, I thought it would probably work quite well for your requirements from a benzo (or tri benzo)..

After the 2016 Psychoactive Substances Act here in the UK, we couldn't get it next day delivery from domestic RC vendors....we can still get it from vendors I'm Continental Europe who are still happy to ship the the UK but you have to pay by international bank transfer which takes a couple of days for the bank to process......then there's shipping etc...so takes up to a week.

I'm not s fan of benzos but i liked it...it helped me calm down when I have PTSD symptoms and get panicky...helps me unfuck my mind and get to sleep...

It's just a shame it's not really long acting like diazepam.... ;)

(I'm sorry, I'm sorry.....but you know I'm gonna keep doing that now as our little private joke?...:) :) ;)
 
Ok so i only read the first few posts and some of the last so I don't know everywhere this conversation has gone, but speaking to the original question by the OP....

I think it's a simple answer of raising your klonopin dose. It's a long enough acting benzo to be able to last long enough for your needs. Especially since it builds up in your system with repeated use.

Other than that, I agree that Diazepam might be worth giving a try. I never had much luck with it at all, but to each his own.
Good luck.
 
Lorne??? said:
I am sorry, however valium IS NOT A LONG ACTING DRUG, and yiu cannot
change that;

IT is rapisky abaorded, into circulation and then the CNS; however it then quickly exits the cns, and is then redistrinuted into varius bisy tissues, rendering UT useless as iT is gradually metabolized; and it is Highly protien bound making plasma levels, undeliavle at best, so that whatever is keft in plasma , is only a fraction and had no practical effect.
At clinical doses, it?s metabolites are useless; oxazepam is, what, half as potent as dzp, iT gas a slow onset, and is converted so gradually, throw it out (and only a small amount of a 10mg dode is converted; even if 10% of the Daisy dose was converted, that is ~7.5mg of oxazepam per day, so?)

Same for Temazepam, valium(dzp,) is typically1.5-2x as potent( though Temaepam is more relaxing typically and a better sedtive/hynotic, though again 15-20mg Temazepan= ~10mg dzp(Some sources say 5mg valium= a whooping 15mg, though mostly an overestimation)

And the big one, nordazepam; nordazepam and tranxene are effectively the same medication, abd it doesn't really last as long as clonazepam; duration 4-12 hours for Cloraepate(Tranx), and clona holds longer

W/out multiple large doses per day, dzp is a fast acting medication, that quickly wears off

There are a couple of other ?long acting? benzodiazepines that actually had a long duration, corresponding to -roughly~ t1-2

And Nordazepam is a partial agonist and valium itself is typically consedered to be 1.5-2x as potent (making nordazepam similiar to temazepam, as per converters

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***DO NOT ATTEMPT TO TYPE WHILE ON BENZO'S 👆 ALSO, VALIUM (DIAZEPAM) IS ONE OF THE LONGEST ACTING BENZODIAZEPINES ON THE MARKET....WOW! 🙄
 
Lorne??? said:
Scrofula, you of all people should know that T1/2 and duration of action are 2 completely things... Clonazepam is the longest benzodiazepine you are likely to get scripted, as it's poor solubility allows it to renter the brain as it is slowly metabolized(nordazepam lasts longer than DZp Itself, not as long as CZP in general and certainly not for me, though with large doses it may build up

Nordazepam is available, and seems to be used more now, though in the form is Tranxene, which is pretty much completely converted to nordazepam in the stomach/go tract; and guess what? They were giving it to me 4 times a day, and that still didn't work, it was a disaster(another story for another time)

It has to do w/ lipophillicy, primarily. Dzp is so lipophillic it is rapidly absorbed and quickly enters the CNS; the father a drug enters, the faster it exits. It is distributed to adipose tissue, and is even stored in the heart

Loraepam lasts longer than a single dose of diazepam, and prevents seizures longer, this is a simple fact, and why hospitals have changed to Lorazepam as the go-to abti-epilipectic; of all people, Lorne here would know

and multiple studies again confirm the BA% of oxy, one put it a little less than 50%, one a little more, and another 70-80%, intranasal for snorting well ground oxycontin tablets(old school, not OP's)

Will repost more references, Backfromthebrink, though w/ all due respect, do NOT claim am stating an opinion when am stating irrefutable fucking facts

(second part was for Backfromthebrink, who seems cool, though he effectively insulted me; 15 minutes of reasearch would explain why diazepam is either given as an infusion, or every 2 hours, and why it isn't prescribed in favor of more effective (and newer) longer lasting benzodiazepines
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Wow!
 
No benzodiazepine is appropriate for the long-term treatment of anxiety.

If it's short-term until your body adjusts to the stimulant, well maybe, but even if only consumed once a day, quite quickly your body will develop tolerance and dependence. In the end only you can decide if the anxiety produced by the stimulant is worth the anxiety.
 
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