hey me and the boyfriend are gonna be doing mdma with his sister in few weeks. it is her first time and i have never had to look after some one on their first time doing mdma i have some from a really mellow batch for her but am looking for tips and general info just to make sure i keep a good eye on her and ensure she has a good time any info would be welcome thank you in advance
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first, have you tested it with a reagent to even see if it's mdma?
if it is mdma you don't need to do much to look after her. at worst she'll get anxious on the comeup but when she's up she'll have an amazing time and you just need to make sure she doesn't drink too much/too little water or do anything dumb.
if it is mdma you don't need to do much to look after her. at worst she'll get anxious on the comeup but when she's up she'll have an amazing time and you just need to make sure she doesn't drink too much/too little water or do anything dumb.
its from a batch i have done before myself really mellow nothing but good times etc but i do remember my first time and how freaked out i got when it started hittin me. also she is mildly asthmatic is there anything i need to look out for in regards to that
the toad
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Step one - get a test kit
Step two - visit erowid's mdma page and study dosages, basics, effects, etc...
Step three - dont give them a lot... if they want more in an hour and a half then fine but dont think "im gonna give them a fat dose to make sure they roll hard"
I typically give first timers around 80-100mg depending on size, small girls more like 70-80mg... if its quality product, then that is plenty... if its adulturated then dont give it to a first timer friend!
matt2012
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If there are no health concerns that you know of before hand and the person is of age and willing to try it then it is my opinion that you have 2 jobs and 2 jobs only. first is provide a safe environment. expect you will have a great time but be prepaired if something should go wrong...next...it is your job to make sure that you noobie has the most fun possible even at the expence of your own experience.
thank you all for the sound advice
she is in good mental health
good mood
very mature never overdoes anything
only a inhaler for her asthma ( and that only gets used 2 or 3 times a month)
we offered and she accepted ( we told her that if she decides she4 dont want to we wont push her)
have told her everything i know (and encouraged her to do her own independent research)
she knows to eat a decent meal and even drink a sports drink a few hours before hand if she feels she needs to ( she is also wanting to find dietary ideas of her own thru her research)
and to matt2012 thank you so much for pointing that out to often when people are introduced to a new thing the people who are suppose to be watching them forget and get caught up in the experience of their own trip
we all get along very well
and i would never give her a larger dose than i would of taken my first time am planning to start her on less than half a dose ( the dose i would of taken my first time) and then let her decide if she wants a little more a couple of hours later
any other ideas or tips i would welcome
she is in good mental health
good mood
very mature never overdoes anything
only a inhaler for her asthma ( and that only gets used 2 or 3 times a month)
we offered and she accepted ( we told her that if she decides she4 dont want to we wont push her)
have told her everything i know (and encouraged her to do her own independent research)
she knows to eat a decent meal and even drink a sports drink a few hours before hand if she feels she needs to ( she is also wanting to find dietary ideas of her own thru her research)
and to matt2012 thank you so much for pointing that out to often when people are introduced to a new thing the people who are suppose to be watching them forget and get caught up in the experience of their own trip
we all get along very well
and i would never give her a larger dose than i would of taken my first time am planning to start her on less than half a dose ( the dose i would of taken my first time) and then let her decide if she wants a little more a couple of hours later
any other ideas or tips i would welcome
While a small dose may seem a good idea, anything less than like 80mg's isn't going to do anything! Even 80-90mg may not do anything for some people. I'd just recommend 100mg, in my opinion its the perfect dose for a first time and should induce all the desired effects and minimise the undesired. If you moderate use effectively, 100-120 should be sufficient each time.
honestly i don't think 120mg could possibly give you a bad experience for your first time.
my first time i did MDMA it was underwhelming because i didn't do enough (was probably around 80mg) and i didn't bother trying MDMA again until a year later i weighed out 120mg and gave that a go. best night ever. was a bit anxious on the comeup because i wasn't expect so much to happen but after i went outside to get some air i just felt amazing and went back in to dance all night
my first time i did MDMA it was underwhelming because i didn't do enough (was probably around 80mg) and i didn't bother trying MDMA again until a year later i weighed out 120mg and gave that a go. best night ever. was a bit anxious on the comeup because i wasn't expect so much to happen but after i went outside to get some air i just felt amazing and went back in to dance all night
Gunna try 120 at a festival this summer. 130 had me too monged to dance for about an hour so i brought a redbull to liven it up which sort of worked. Have you noticed big differences between like 110-120-130? Trying to find my "sweet spot" as it were.
depends on the batch tbh.
for me, there's a difference between 120 and 150. 120 has me where i want to be, 150 has a bit more gurning and "guys im absolutely FUCKED" quality to it. never had a problem with being too monged out myself i'm always quite energetic anyway and i make sure that i dance when i'm coming up to get me in an energetic dancing mood for the rest of the experience. 130mg/140mg i've only done with this mandy i had that was cut with a little bit of speed (could tell it was just a little speed) so i didn't mong on that ofc haha
i'd say if 130mg makes you feel good but a bit too monged just drink like half a red bull as you're coming up, or put a bit of caffeine powder (it's cheap as chips) in your bombs. some people say 10mg-40mg of caffeine powder in their bomb is all they need to counter the mongy feeling. might prang a bit on the comeup if you're prone to that though.
i got a mate though who says whenever he starts feeling mongy he just goes to the centre of the dancefloor, waits for the buildup to the next drop, puts his hands in the air and tries his best to just go fucking mental on the drop and then it gets him in a hyped up mood. which is pretty much what i do as i come up i suppose.
but yeah man im getting some really clean mandy for global gathering gonna go for about 125mg and have a couple of pro plus on me just in case.
nolys
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As long as its proper mdma don't give them any more than 100mg in one go. Wait an hour or so after and see if they want more. If they do, give them another 50 or so
Yeah well like 130 was going awesome - comeup had me kissing my mate, love-hearting strangers and making mandy bonds but then like 2 hours in it just felt really clear and monged on the dance floor. Had to get some gum too as i was gurning really bad. It just put a bit of a downer on it all that i wanna avoid next time. Was considering a bit of caffeine but I don't feel like its really necessary, but at the same time i don't wanna mong out to a good DJ. That pro plus plan sounds good just incase i start monging but it takes a while to kick in. Maybe i'll just try like half a pro plus when I drop and see how that goes since my comeups have been nothing but fun; haven't been sick nor anxious. Funny seeing pillheads chunder on the dancefloor though haha!
Darksidesam
Bluelight Crew
I always recommend 100mg to a first timer.
Green tea and vitamin C after really smooth the after-effects i find.
Green tea and vitamin C after really smooth the after-effects i find.
yeah if you don't have to deal with anxiety on the comeup usually you should be alright with the half a pro plus mate, and if you do get any anxiety it quickly gets replaced by euphoria anyway.
and mandy bonds are the best bonds haha
Mandy bonds really are the shit. The hardcore raves I go to are full of people who don't seem to get much out of MD anymore... Some of them look old enough to be my mum. I'd love a rave where everyone is feeling the same amount of love and empathy as I am then the bonds would be even better.
Can't forget the cunts on coke causing fights and generally ruining the atmosphere too.
End of rant.
dnb raves/events are full of young cunts such as myself getting loved up on mandy. i know what you mean by the old ravers who don't get much out of it though i reckon i piss them off/make them jealous when i im loved up and gurning like a madman.
also a fair few dick heads on coke/alcohol, but there have never been enough to impact my night negatively.