Heroin Long time Heroin smokers, 15 yrs.

[Bodder]

Hi ppl Ive been quite a hardcore smoker of both Cannabis and Heroin for well over 15 yrs now, and I'm worried about my chest as I get pains when I smoke off the foil.Some morning I cough up some horrible browny /black gunk which is really worrying, but one thing I have to say is this only happens when I quit, or reduce on the ciggy's,???.So my question is this a good thing,? or does it just mean my lungs are messed up and now the tar is moving to my heart which worries the hell out of me. Recently I have been getting palpitations as well as a blocked hard feeling in the centre off my chest.Okey I'm not an hardcore IV user and never have been and dont want to be, being on Methadone 45 mls as well I just top up on gear when I can, but its gunna be a long week now till next pay check and with having some tolerance I'm just wondering weather snorting would be possible.At the minute I can get my hands on 2 types of H, 1 being the rocky brown stuff which is real dark and tar looking a pool ball black on the foil but I have to spend a good 25$ for 2 items and drink 4 cans of beer before I feel it, and the other the same but the H is an off white fluffy powder which is a little lighter on the foil, and when cooked up it as very clear looking, I know the fluffy stuff seems more better for the snorting but anyway, even after a 2-3 day break with hell going on I can feel it but it never works like what it used to.I started using H when I was 15 years old, and now I'm 32.Some say I'm look to get this far but now its getting too much my life's going no were , and underneath it all I do want to stop but I so look forward to my payday use ,which I get on the Friday and its all gone by the Monday.I dont use any stimulants btw, ie, Crack which I used to some years back but no more I have enough probs with what I have at minute.Hell I even stopped using Cannabis and have cut back on the booze, the worrying thing is the tar I'm bringing up, and the chest pains which aren't bad there more off a sensation, a hard feeling as though somethings blocked.Ive spoken to my GP but he doesn't seem to be as worried ,or alarmed.I have been for a chest XRay for these symptoms and and ECG, and still no wiser, hope someone can relate to this many thanks.

 

[phr]

Wow. Wall of text. Try breaking up your posts into paragraphs.


Obviously you're having some noticeable health issues. Look into switching roa's.

 

[Robotripper903]

I smoked heroin too and started getting chest pains. I then snorted and the cheat pain left me. That caused nose pain so I just shot up. Then serious tolerance problems appeared. Sorry dude it's heroin this shot happens so pick our poison between the three methods.

 

[psychopath]

I think it is a fairly positive sign that the chest x-ray and ECG didn't show anything negative.

Your lungs actually get more relaxed with the cigarettes if you have been a long time smoker. I know someone with emphysema who gets momentary relief when smoking a cigarette.

Also, you have smoked a lot of heroin. You might be in early stage emphysema or COPD.

 

[nuvanob]

Time to seriously consider plugging as a safer ROA.

 

[What was it?]

Time to seriously consider plugging as a safer ROA.

I agree, I usually plug. Also perhaps take some low dose aspirin every day just to keep your blood a bit thinner for a while....but definitly quite smoking off foil. Yous aid it takes a while to hit you anyway so you aint getting a rush off of it. Plugging is more effective, just less of a rush.

 

[jamesmartin]

Time too consider stopping too smoke heroin if you cann.

I know it's hard but while ur still smoking it It will probably be easier to stop (I know alot of ppl who started off smoking and before you knew it a few years down the like they'd be IVing and trying ever so hard to quit )

carry on smoking that green dope though (weed) hehe

 

[Bodder]

Hi guys thanx for all your reply well I can honestly say its been 9 days now since I have last scored any H, and the chest pains have subsided.I still get the palpitations occasionally but a lot less than B4. I think its jst a side effect from Opies, I feel the chest palpitations more when for example I'm feeling rough from topping up, or if I decide to take less than my prescribed dose off Methadone, and am just hoping its something to do with being run down but this also suggests to me that its not a short term problem from using H, but could be a more of an underlining health issue which am not hoping for in any way.
Anyway all I can say is Ive now handed in 2 negative urines and fortunately tomorrow is payday which I can say I'm definitely looking forward to scoring again after a 9 day brake and can't wait.One thing I have to say is, I will still be smoking it, IVing is a possibility but I have smoked a long time and am looking into Opie enhancers.. I will give asperin a go though, but I'm currently getting the help from so called medical pro's-drug workers in this field and I'm making it well aware of my symptoms also due to me cutting down I eventually underneith all of this do want to stop using and become clean.

 

[macbrown21]

One thing when I'm in WD I get what I thought were chest palpitations. It turned out to be muscle spasms in my chest. Kinda like RLS in my pec muscle.

It scared the shit out of me the first time, because I thought it was my heart beating really fast. Then I took my pulse and it was normal, so I figured out it was just my pec muscles above my heart.

 

[DavisK4high247]

If you still smoke heroin in the future maybe using a glass pipe of some kind, not a glass weed pipe ,but a glass pipe with a bulb type end hand blown glass , that has a small hole in the top of the rounded end as a carb. to let in air as you smoke. I dunno how well this would work, but you are smoking #3 heroin Base since you are in the UK I assume by the way you write things and phrases and so on..#3 would probably work out well in some kind of hand blown glass pipe of some kind, IMO..

 

[Bodder]

One thing when I'm in WD I get what I thought were chest palpitations. It turned out to be muscle spasms in my chest. Kinda like RLS in my pec muscle.

It scared the shit out of me the first time, because I thought it was my heart beating really fast. Then I took my pulse and it was normal, so I figured out it was just my pec muscles above my heart.

Well I'm hoping its something similar, I'm on Beta blockers for a racing pulse, and when I'm in WD the palpitations aren't like a skipped heart beat more of a paused one, which actually feels as though its gunna stop.yeah it scares the crap out a yas, but the am gunna ask for another ECG scan as I'm currently discussing all this with the so called pro drug workers at my local clinic. I'm just hoping its something Ive noticed more as time has gone on and that its nothing to bad to worry about,

 

[Bodder]

If you still smoke heroin in the future maybe using a glass pipe of some kind, not a glass weed pipe ,but a glass pipe with a bulb type end hand blown glass , that has a small hole in the top of the rounded end as a carb. to let in air as you smoke. I dunno how well this would work, but you are smoking #3 heroin Base since you are in the UK I assume by the way you write things and phrases and so on..#3 would probably work out well in some kind of hand blown glass pipe of some kind, IMO..

This would be very hard because it needs to run on some kind of flat area space, otherwise I would be burning alot of the H up and it would frazzle.Nice Idea though but not possible like say Crack for example.

 

[macbrown21]

Well I'm hoping its something similar, I'm on Beta blockers for a racing pulse, and when I'm in WD the palpitations aren't like a skipped heart beat more of a paused one, which actually feels as though its gunna stop.yeah it scares the crap out a yas, but the am gunna ask for another ECG scan as I'm currently discussing all this with the so called pro drug workers at my local clinic. I'm just hoping its something Ive noticed more as time has gone on and that its nothing to bad to worry about,

Yea I was beyond scared when it happened the first time. Then I realized if my heart was beating 400Bpm I'd be dead. Then I figured it out.

 

[Nagelfar]

I have to third the plugging route. If you're against IV'ing, plugging has benefits over snorting and smoking in regard to damage, and those as well as ingesting for bioavailability and potency, hard-hittingness. Just remember to break it down in water and administer with a syringe.

 

[macbrown21]

I have to third the plugging route. If you're against IV'ing, plugging has benefits over snorting and smoking in regard to damage, and those as well as ingesting for bioavailability and potency, hard-hittingness. Just remember to break it down in water and administer with a syringe.

Syringe with the needle removed. Otherwise there could be serious problems lol!

I've never plugged it H, but I one time I had some 30mg Morphine tabs and was getting nothing out of them orally. After getting some advice on here, I plugged 2 of 'em and it was great. Almost as good as the IM morphine I've had at the doctors. Being Heroin is acelated morphine I imagine plugging is pretty damn effective.

 

[Bodder]

Dont forget I'm on 42 mls of methadone , and its mainly H, no 3 around here so would I have to cook it with some vit C, or just simply dilute with H20,?? and off cours remove the needle hahaha my gudness lol.

 

[TheLostBoys]

Syringe with the needle removed. Otherwise there could be serious problems lol!

I've never plugged it H, but I one time I had some 30mg Morphine tabs and was getting nothing out of them orally. After getting some advice on here, I plugged 2 of 'em and it was great. Almost as good as the IM morphine I've had at the doctors. Being Heroin is acelated morphine I imagine plugging is pretty damn effective.

I have a problem sticking something up my ass, I dont see how you guys do it but none the less, ive heard that you get a great high from it.

 

[Bodder]

I have a problem sticking something up my ass, I dont see how you guys do it but none the less, ive heard that you get a great high from it.

The saying is as U have herd it before,? Dont knock it till U have tried it,hahahaha

 

[brimz]

The saying is as U have herd it before,? Dont knock it till U have tried it,hahahaha

I've used the UYB (Up Yer Bum ) ROA and found that it took a while to come on and i didn't get a rush , i would only do it if i had ashot that was in danger of Colagulating.
I've been smoking gear for a good 15 years as well but iving also , i find if i go 4 a while smoking everyday it really does effect my chest and i find myself coughing up shit.
I rekon alot of the problems are from the actuall foil , even if if u burn it off it still contains plenty of toxic stuff.
As 4 giving up smoking , its common to develop a cough when u stop , it will go away soon i expect.

 

[Bodder]

I've used the UYB (Up Yer Bum ) ROA and found that it took a while to come on and i didn't get a rush , i would only do it if i had ashot that was in danger of Colagulating.
I've been smoking gear for a good 15 years as well but iving also , i find if i go 4 a while smoking everyday it really does effect my chest and i find myself coughing up shit.
I rekon alot of the problems are from the actuall foil , even if if u burn it off it still contains plenty of toxic stuff.
As 4 giving up smoking , its common to develop a cough when u stop , it will go away soon i expect.

So I'm not the only one then at last I personally dont think its from the foil, I always make sure the flame doesn't perferate the foil so that the heat burns through that way to be sure , but if I was doing that all the time i would be worried that it would to be what U are saying.
Instead I think its just the impurities there bashing it with, and the actuaLL STUFF IT SELF CLOGGED UP IN MY CHEST, IE look at the tooter after,?? I think well thats whats inside me,haven't had a smoke for 2 days now not by choice either jst lack of cash, and have found palpitations and pains to have eased a little.The thing is there not pains but more of a weird sensation, I mean if it really hurt me then i would definately give it a miss.So do u cough up brown gunk as though it look like bits of wheatabix in the sink in the morning,??? Its an awfull thought to think what my insides are like but it still doesn't stop me when I can afford it.

I jst think gear isn't no way as potent as what it used to be like, or it could be that these days I'm on a higher dose of methadone. Back in the day 35 mls was a high dose for me, I have reduced from 75 mils and now down to 42mls, and still even after a 2 day break I find it hard to get a hit , okey it only seems to work as i'm smoking it at the time and say lasts for about another 30 mins max after that then i find I'm pretty much normal again.

Tolerance is a pain in da ass, but then again I like a drink also and find a 4 pack of Stella, always gives me a better nod, unfiortunately i can't get my hands on anything else from the GP, AFTER GIVING UP MY BENZO ADDICTION. Never again. God knows when I will next be lucky, or unlucky however U look at it.