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Long term opiate use, first time heroin. Questions about it.

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drac120

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I'm twenty one and I've had something I had since I was born causing me pain so out of 21 years I've been on opiates at minimum 10 of them. I remember taking 5 or 10mg percs when I was like 11 or whatever.

Anyway the insurance were idiots and switched me from oxy to opana aka oxymorphone and up until then I never abused my pills in any way besides taking maybe two or three at once instead of one when in severe pain.

Anyway now snorting the 30mg opana I have to do so much it's a waste really. I can't shoot them up / never have shot up ANYTHING anyway but never gonna shoot a pill NEVER,


Anyway I finally found a hookup to maybe get some H powder not tar, and it looks like I may have to detox due to not being able to find a doc to supply me with strong pain pills. So I wanna go out being as high as possible =P

Anyway what's going to get me the highest and conserve the most? I don't wanna plug, I asked my dad and he said he'll hit a vein for me since my veins are a pain to hit, or I can snort it.

I wanna know how long apx each lasts high wise, if I shoot it am I going to use less then snorting or if I snort will I be really high and longer and end up using less and so forth. I know about filtering it through cotton and some basics of shooting up etc I would just like some help about the length wise and stretching it, AND any help AT ALL anyone can provide tips of the trade or whatever you know what I mean.

P.S. NO DAMN "MY ADVICE IS DON'T TOUCH IT@@@@@" idiots please, PLEASE
 
drac120 said:
I'm twenty one and I've had something I had since I was born causing me pain so out of 21 years I've been on opiates at minimum 10 of them. I remember taking 5 or 10mg percs when I was like 11 or whatever.

Anyway the insurance were idiots and switched me from oxy to opana aka oxymorphone and up until then I never abused my pills in any way besides taking maybe two or three at once instead of one when in severe pain.

Anyway now snorting the 30mg opana I have to do so much it's a waste really. I can't shoot them up / never have shot up ANYTHING anyway but never gonna shoot a pill NEVER,


Anyway I finally found a hookup to maybe get some H powder not tar, and it looks like I may have to detox due to not being able to find a doc to supply me with strong pain pills. So I wanna go out being as high as possible =P

Anyway what's going to get me the highest and conserve the most? I don't wanna plug, I asked my dad and he said he'll hit a vein for me since my veins are a pain to hit, or I can snort it.

I wanna know how long apx each lasts high wise, if I shoot it am I going to use less then snorting or if I snort will I be really high and longer and end up using less and so forth. I know about filtering it through cotton and some basics of shooting up etc I would just like some help about the length wise and stretching it, AND any help AT ALL anyone can provide tips of the trade or whatever you know what I mean.

P.S. NO DAMN "MY ADVICE IS DON'T TOUCH IT@@@@@" idiots please, PLEASE
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Are you fucking serious right now? I mean really.
 
If I was you i would Get a bundle that is 10 Bags, Start with 2 the high will only last for about 15 to 20 minutes and that will be very intense then after that for the next hour you will just feel ok, after you see how 2 bags work for you then you can judge from there. When I want to get really fucked up and i am also a long time opiate user/abuser AKA I can do 40mg of opana and just be cool, and i wont be falling asleep or anything like that, I do 3 bags it is very intense again for like 15 to 20 minutes then I am just content after that, H is NOT something I would suggest to use for pain at all. One last thing after you hit the vein and push everything in take the tie off quickly or you can blow you vein. I am very experienced in pills and H, if you have anymore questions just PM me.
 
^watch him actually try that and end up getting someone to sue you for manslaughter.

my advice to the OP: MY ADVICE IZ DONT TUCH IT!1!!!1!

seriously, someone with your willingness to intravenously inject heroin would likely be a candidate for some SERIOUS addiction problems. heroin, to me, was far and above more exciting than any other opiate i've ever tried - i never came close to an addiction (save for when I was being handed dozens of free OCs for a few months,) but heroin has nearly thrown me over the edge a few times.

It - IS - bliss, pure and simple. I'd advise you to snort the stuff, but you seem content on injecting so I'll offer that is does definitely give you more bang for your buck.
 
In my (and I think most ppl agree) opinion after bangin D for the first time, was anger for all the dope I wasted railin it! Lol if u have a tolerance and want a decent high I'd bang it. Not condoning it and I'd say start off small not at 2 bags. Bcuz u don't kno potency n u can always add more but once it's in ur vein u can't take it back out if it's too much n by then it's 2 late. It's a very hard thing to stop. I have to say I been on sub mt for 8mths n I stopped dope 10 months ago only bcuz I didn't have the will to go alone to the set by bus n get it anymore, but nothing makes my mental cravings flare like thinkin bout bangin dope. U won't experience a better feeling than that rush. Be safe.
 
Oh first to the guy about "throw out insults to people trying to help" no they weren't.... it's an insurance company and they said oxycontin is to expensive and more or less they have a deal with the people who make opana and a few other select drugs so they said "No, oxy costs to much. You can only either have fent patches I believe one option was, Opana, or I forget the last option. Opana for like a 60 pill script 30mg each is literally like 400+ dollars whereas my oxy scripts were AT LEAST half the price for the same amount more or less.

About my dad thing, he was a hardcore stoner back in the day he never touched needles or anything more like a hippie stoner kinda. Drank a ton, lots of valium etc, lots of hash, coke, pot, mescaline, acid, nitrous etc.

BUT he's clean now and was never addicted to anything, and he hasn't done coke or anything besides smoke a joint every now and then in the past twenty one years since I was born. He won't touch anything, he won't do a shot or drink a beer or anything anymore.

Anyway he doesn't want me to try it at all, but I'm an adult and he'll not like it but he'll do it because I won't be able to hit my own vein. We all know what happens if you miss a vein and inject too so yeah.

Ha I've had my dad cut me out lines of Opana to snort before, I had two or three 20mg or 30mg ER crushed up forget if they were 20's or 30's, doc bumped me a while ago. Anyway had it all crushed up busy typing stuff up on the computer, "Hey dad, wanna cut me some lines real quick since I'm doing something important?" "Sure, its been a long time since I've done this bring back memories."



Anyway sorry for the story / rant / whatever for the

TL;DR people read here.
Dad doesn't want to really, and doesn't want me to try it really but I'm an adult and he doesn't bitch about what I do. He tried drugs when he was my age and he's not going to be a hypocrite about it like almost all other parents. Also I've been on opiates for like 10-12 years out of my 21 of being on this earth. I can't find a new doc to prescribe meds so insurance company is going to get me to a treatment / detox place and I wanna get a really great opiate high before I go more or less.



*Edit* Also I'm drug experienced in general enough to know to test the waters and start out small even if I do have a huge opiate tolerance. No matter what I'm doing or taking etc I start out low and build up. I don't wanna wind up on the news =P
 
Your dad would shoot you up with smack. Is he the one hooking you up? After watching you get down on that shit he'll probably want to get in the act as well. If he doesn't already.

Well if you are so content on using H than buy yourself ten bags (bundle) and test the waters with just one bag (roughly 100mg) or maybe just half a bag, the other half you can split with your dad. Always start with the least amount possible as you never know how potent the batch will be. Also its good for your tolerance.

For pain relief. Well the rush lasts about 15 minutes and the high continues for about a few hours. About the least effective opiate to fight pain.
 
My dad has never once tried H or had the desire to, we can't really afford a habit so even if one of us would be addicted it wouldn't be possible to fuel it. We're both on pain medication anyway so we wouldn't be dopesick and have to buy more H if you get what I mean.

Me and him both have legit pain, we're actually in need of the narcotics and he has NEVER abused his pain pills not once. Granted he can't even if he wanted to he's on ms-contin. My problem came when they switched me from oxycontin to opana and I read on here it was one of the top of the top opiates I had to try snone or half or whatever so my tolerance is even more insane now which was another reason I was thinking I MAY have to shoot it.

Anyway I'm just going to try snorting it first I really really don't wanna shoot it, and I don't wanna plug it or ruin it by smoking it wrong. I just have such a big tolerance I'm afraid I may have to shoot it up I just hope I don''t have to.

Thanks for the replies from the people who were helpful, not so much the ones being well you know.
 
The H isn't 100% for pain relief but about 50% for pain 50% for me wanting a nod. I do have a huge tolerance now though after starting on 10mg percs and vic es and stuff at the age of around 10-12 or so.

Anyway more or less I have a REALLY rare disease in my foot I was born with, there's almost no information at all on it I've been to literally over 30 different doctors / specialists etc and only one or two of them even knew of it.

Look up on google the name of the disease is "lymphangioma" you literally only get 186k hits which isn't much at all for a disease. I got lucky as hell, I have it in my foot and it's insanely rare to get it in an extremity.

Anyway most of my pain now is caused by the last surgeries they did, I wanted to be able to do football and they were doing a skin graft on like how to describe it uhh the inside of my left foot like the right side on my left foot the inside part. If you get where I mean. They put aloderm down and then two strips of my own skin.

Well now there's so much scar tissue I can't walk well it rubs against my shoes etc and hurts, can barely stand for more then say 5-10mins apx then pain starts to kick in and hurts more and more literally every minute after that. Plus it's literally apx 1.5 to 1.7 times the size of my normal foot due to swelling. It's over one and a half times the size of my normal foot due to the swelling.

*Edit* I DO NOT WANT PEOPLE TO THINK I'M BITCHING / WANTING SYMPATHY!!!! Someone asked about my problem and I explained, it's life for me I don't want sympathy or people to feel bad or whatever, I'm used to living like this and have my entire life it's nothing new it's normal to me. I just don't want people posting saying "awww poor you go cry somewhere else" or something like that when I'm not attention seeking etc.
 
classic.grg said:
One last thing after you hit the vein and push everything in take the tie off quickly or you can blow you vein. I am very experienced in pills and H, if you have anymore questions just PM me.
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You are supposed to untie after registering, but before pushing the plunger down. This may be difficult for some people, but since the OP is getting assistance with the procedure, then it should not be difficult.

I also think that the OP will be disappointed with H, as many people have very high expectations for it and do not realize that pain pills such as Opana and Oxy are quite strong and some batches of H will be less effective than the dose of said pain pills.
 
Tommyboy723 said:
I also think that the OP will be disappointed with H, as many people have very high expectations for it and do not realize that pain pills such as Opana and Oxy are quite strong and some batches of H will be less effective than the dose of said pain pills.
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Personally I always enjoyed OxyContin over Heroin. The only reason I switched was because I was spending so much on Oxy's. I had the choice of paying $120 on OC's daily or spend HALF that for a gram of tar heroin. So I went with H simply due to the price.
 
I think your correct about H not being an effective choice for pain, but in wanting a good nod I think the rush of iving H vs railing lines of oc outweighs it. I for 1 nvr got anything similarly as good from oc as that 15 min rush n glow u get off bangin H. Tho oc will last longer at a more level decent high.
 
what the hell is wrong with the dope y'all get? i'm a long term opiate addict (going on 4 years) starting with snorting/smoking oc 80's, moving on to smoking h, and finally shooting it, and i'll stay high for 6-8 hrs! jersey dude, i KNOW you get good dope... wierd... guess everyone is different though, of course!
 
K'd-OUT-in-AZ said:
Personally I always enjoyed OxyContin over Heroin. The only reason I switched was because I was spending so much on Oxy's. I had the choice of paying $120 on OC's daily or spend HALF that for a gram of tar heroin. So I went with H simply due to the price.
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that's essentially why i switched too (and pretty much every other junkie i know as well), but i'll be damned if it wasn't cheaper AND better. plus it almost seemed harder to come down off of the oxy then the dope.
anyone else feel the same way?
 
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Any suggestions?

I've been using dilaudid every day for a year and a half and just tried H for the first time to see what all the fuss was about.

Well, it's probably my tolerance, but even an entire bag of black tar (all we have around here) failed to get me high. Most people get launched into outer space with a quarter bag.

It got me off the launch pad, but within half an hour of takeoff what started out as a nice buzz turned into... Nothing.

My gut tells me 2 bags (or tar balls, if you want to be more accurate) would do the trick, but first of all, at $50 a bag, I'm not interested in laying out $100 for one, nice high and, more importantly, that is A LOT of bad hoodoo to be sticking into my body.

As much as I'd like to find something that can still get me high, it looks like H isn't going to be it.

I'd still like to try the "old fashioned" white powder traditional H before I totally write it off, but until I run across some, i'm open to suggestions on what else to try!
 
John_Burrows said:
I've been using dilaudid every day for a year and a half and just tried H for the first time to see what all the fuss was about.

Well, it's probably my tolerance, but even an entire bag of black tar (all we have around here) failed to get me high. Most people get launched into outer space with a quarter bag.

It got me off the launch pad, but within half an hour of takeoff what started out as a nice buzz turned into... Nothing.

My gut tells me 2 bags (or tar balls, if you want to be more accurate) would do the trick, but first of all, at $50 a bag, I'm not interested in laying out $100 for one, nice high and, more importantly, that is A LOT of bad hoodoo to be sticking into my body.

As much as I'd like to find something that can still get me high, it looks like H isn't going to be it.

I'd still like to try the "old fashioned" white powder traditional H before I totally write it off, but until I run across some, i'm open to suggestions on what else to try!
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that's like switching from percocet to tramadol! haha

watch the prices though man.. 'tis not allowed here except in the price thread.


i'd sick to the dillies man.. esp with the price of tar in your area... that's outrageous!

what does a ''bag'' weigh up to there?
 
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