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Long term H users only (the ones who've kept it together

I wish i have found a way to moderately use H, but i didn't because simply there isn't!
I did H for 10 YEARS straight (smoking at start then sniffing for 8 years) The only reason i didn't live in the streets, is that throughout this LONG time, i was working and paying my whole monthly salary on H. To quit, i had to relocate and start Subutex again. Almost 2.5 months now, and life keeps getting better...but bare in mind that i was one lucky S.O.B, others have either passed, jailed or institutionalized! You really don't know what you're getting yourself into. Please think before diving head first...it's a long dark way as it's posted above. Plus, scoring and consuming H will be all you have in mind. Trust me, u don't want to go there. Enjoy life, and if you want to do drugs, do it recreational and do NOT form a habit. An H habit stays in one's mind for a loooong time, and in many cases, it never leaves you. Be smart.

In my case, feeling again was a blessing. On h, you're just bareley alive, never too happy, never too sad. Emotions are blocked by brain chemicals and life becomes gray. Anything you used to enjoy will become secondary to feeding your addiction, if you keep doing them at all!
Strange to find myself preaching about the dangers of H...coming from me! I hope i learned my lesson and learned it well, and wouldn't want to see this or worse (or much worse) happen to ANYONE! Enjoy life and what it has to offer.
(I didn't mean to sound like a parent, but they were right)
 
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over time, youre body WILL get use to any cycle of use.. for a while i would use once every week but over time i became addicted to that cycle.. for example, i would use on a friday and i would not experience withdrawal in the following days but the next friday would come and i would start feel uncomfortable. by saturday or sunday of the following week i would be experiencing minor physical withdrawal.

imo chipping does not work in the long run.. dope is an all or nothing type of drug. for me anyway.
 
Speaking of cycles....We started with once a week, since we were "smart users" and we don't shoot. Then it moved to twice a week. A few months later, one of us will be like
"oh sunday, i've got to work, then will make it Saturday, and then Sunday comes and your buddies will be doing it so you convince yourself that you can do it and then go to work. Sometimes like this, and if you don't do it and go to work, you'll be all tired and your nose and eyes dripping, really not the average state for mind/body to work or to be productive. Then you start taking to be able to go to work, then taking at work, then....you'll feel like you're on a leech and H is your master. Did you read about fellow users who took their own life because simply they couldn't get off! This is how bad an H addiction is!

"Taste me you will see, More is all you need
You're dedicated to
How I'm killing you
Come crawling faster
Obey your master
Your life burns faster
Obey your master " Master of puppets- Metallica
 
Been&Done said:
Speaking of cycles....We started with once a week, since we were "smart users" and we don't shoot. Then it moved to twice a week. A few months later, one of us will be like
"oh sunday, i've got to work, then will make it Saturday, and then Sunday comes and your buddies will be doing it so you convince yourself that you can do it and then go to work. Sometimes like this, and if you don't do it and go to work, you'll be all tired and your nose and eyes dripping, really not the average state for mind/body to work or to be productive. Then you start taking to be able to go to work, then taking at work, then....you'll feel like you're on a leech and H is your master. Did you read about fellow users who took their own life because simply they couldn't get off! This is how bad an H addiction is!

"Taste me you will see, More is all you need
You're dedicated to
How I'm killing you
Come crawling faster
Obey your master
Your life burns faster
Obey your master " Master of puppets- Metallica
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We all gonna die. That's not the problem. H makes some moments of some peoples lives better. The point of this thread was to see if the ones who have managed that are willing to share.
I'm sick of all the H bashing. It's a good drug imo. (No, actually it's way better than just 'good')
The user brings their baggage to the drug not the other way round.
I suspect the people I sought enquiry with probably aren't on this site at all so could the mods please just shut her down.
Thanks all and with the festive season approaching Love Peace and Happiness to those who could use some <3
Hari Om
edtree
 
edtree said:
H makes some moments of some peoples lives better.
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lol this is a ridiculous statement.. H makes some moments of peoples lives totally horrible too. you gotta weigh the good against the bad or just your just in denial.
 
Heroin makes peoples lives better? hahahahaha. What positive aspects does it bring to your life?

I obviously enjoy getting high off H..its my drug of choice.., but its ruined my life and everyone elses life that I know who have ever touched the drug.

How in the world would it make your life better..aside from if you had really bad chronic pain and you used it as a painkiller (and if that's the case you should be in a pain management clinic controlling your pain legally so as to avoid incarceration). Are you new to H or something-that is the only reason I could rationalize why you would think it would make peoples lives better.

You are living in a fantasy land/denial/or on a honeymoon because you are new to using. H is not some anti depressant lol. You're 1 bag of week plan will not last...sorry, but that was EVERYONES plan. I mean that as a cautionary statement, not an insult. H, the high, rush, etc... kind of eventually defeats your power to properly reason and make responsible decisions.

I only use once or twice a week at most now and bang a bundle of average NJ nice white powdered dope in a shot. I used to buy a 15mg oxy IR' once in a while to get high, and my story isn't much different from anyone elses. The days I don't use I am on bupe. I've failed time after time trying to get clean off opiates.

No one I've ever met said "....hey I wanna get really addicted to heroin realll baddd man." Everyone I met started out using just once a week.

If the users you "sought inquiry with" are not on this site where do you think they are? This site houses the H users who have managed to not sell their computers..which is a rare find IMO.


.Lucid. said:
lol this is a ridiculous statement.. H makes some moments of peoples lives totally horrible too. you gotta weigh the good against the bad or just your just in denial.
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Truth.

On the flipside I have graduated college, held down my good job, have a good credit rating, etc... but I still feel that opiates have ruined my life for the time being until I dig myself out, which sometimes feels impossible.

I never stole or broke laws to support my habit, I just have nothing to show for all my money/credit spent on H. It took priority in my life..which is a pretty common story.

Sometimes I feel like being able to "keep it together" makes things worse. It's harder to admit yourself that your an addict. Between having a good high paying job and bridging the gap with bupe or methadone it's made my problem worse. If I was dead broke, homeless, and constantly sick maybe it would deter me more.
 
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I've been "keeping it together" by paying bills before copping as soon as I got the money in my hand. My habit is way larger than yours. So I go through days of sickness, I take advantage of people that don't know prices and charge them double on bundles so I get mine for free, a lot of hustling, but a lot of days sick.

It all started like you. A little here and there, then my tolerance grew, I wanted to get higher, and before I knew it I was a full blown addict.

If you keep it together you are the exception. It seems fun now but if you stick around long enough the fun part is a memory. Eventually you are just paying to be not sick.

If you can get out now then get out. I know if I don't I won't have my apartment and car and other getting along items for much longer.

Good luck. No one that loses everything though it could happen to them. Everyone though they would quit eventually or it would never get out of control. That's rarely the case.
 
.Lucid. said:
lol this is a ridiculous statement.. H makes some moments of peoples lives totally horrible too. you gotta weigh the good against the bad or just your just in denial.
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Yeah, I brought my baggage to H. Paying $100 a day to feel normal is blissful. Heroin is great. I'm so happy I decided to get on the train.
 
lozgod said:
Yeah, I brought my baggage to H. Payin g $100 a day to feel normal is blissful. Heroin is great. I'm so happy I decided to get on the train.
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Same here, spent the last 10 years working my ass off just to be able to pay for my habit!! Yes, what a great feeling to pay so much money every freakin day just to feel normal...How sad! What a statement to make...I'll jump off a cliff since i'll die anyway at the end!

Whoever speaks like this about H, still hasn't been bitten. You sound so naive, and we ALL thought we'll be able to control it and that we are "smart users" at start. Then, you get a slap on the face or maybe more than 1, to wake u up. I hope u mature soon and realize the consequences of your own actions.
Take care and remember that there is nothing cool in being a heroin addict, and simply put: the user becomes the addict...same old story and you're no different. Take care and think before you say/post things like these. Man!
 
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This may get edited by the mods but i'm gonna say it anyway. Edtree made a ridiculous statement about h making life better followed by a statement about looking forward to "festival season." The only people who seem to get excited about festival season are mostly trust fund hippies (trustafarians) who can bankroll going on tour for the summer in addition to their drug habit. I'm basing this on my experience of living with a lot of spoiled hippies out west while I was in college. I know this sounds like complete trolling but it seems like people with a lot of money and leisure time don't have the opportunity to see how shitty your life can get when you have a healthy dope habit. Nothing like waking up in the morning with nothing but ice cubes in your freezer and the cold sweats wondering how the hell you are going to get high let alone eat.

In all fairness though, the fact that you bring your baggage to the drug not the other way around was a good point.

Edit: OK i just read all the posts on this thread and I realize that edtree just has a light habit and may not be a spoiled hippie but I'm going to keep my rant about trust fund hippies up.
 
I had plenty of chances to try crack & never did because I saw the consequences with others, the same goes with heroin, never tried it because you end up with a needles in your hand & I hate needles. Anyway, I know of people that have been productive for over 10 & 20 years doing heroin. One was a nurse & the other a mechanic. They did it without their family members ever knowing & they did it while raising families.

Can it be done, sure..... but it comes with a cost, whether its all the money you spend or the part where you are just doing it to not get sick & when it gets to that part, where is the fun in that?
 
peteypablo said:
This may get edited by the mods but i'm gonna say it anyway. Edtree made a ridiculous statement about h making life better followed by a statement about looking forward to "festival season." The only people who seem to get excited about festival season are mostly trust fund hippies (trustafarians) who can bankroll going on tour for the summer in addition to their drug habit. I'm basing this on my experience of living with a lot of spoiled hippies out west while I was in college. I know this sounds like complete trolling but it seems like people with a lot of money and leisure time don't have the opportunity to see how shitty your life can get when you have a healthy dope habit. Nothing like waking up in the morning with nothing but ice cubes in your freezer and the cold sweats wondering how the hell you are going to get high let alone eat.

In all fairness though, the fact that you bring your baggage to the drug not the other way around was a good point.

Edit: OK i just read all the posts on this thread and I realize that edtree just has a light habit and may not be a spoiled hippie but I'm going to keep my rant about trust fund hippies up.
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When a person is rich & can afford any drug he wants, especially endless amounts of heroin & oxys, does the drug treat that person any different than someone thats poor or middle class. No......drugs dont discriminate & neither should you.
 
Dude i dont think you need to worry about tolerance if you use half a bag. you wont really even build much of tolerance using every other day. even with the best bags on the east coast you would need to do 1 full bag to get high even id you had never used before. you are using such a SMALL amount that taking that codeine on your off day is probably increasing you tolerance. if you use half a bag every 48 hours i doubt you will even get a physical habit with withdrawals. what you are doing is just like the most intense version possible of doing H every once in a while
 
You should really check out these Whatman Mini UniPrep Syringeless .2 micron filters. Picture a cup where you squirt the solution after you first cotton filter. There is a plunger that fits flush with the little cup. at the bottom of the plunger is the PES ( or whichever you order ) filter membrane, at the top of the plunger is a cap and a septum which you can pierce and draw your solution directly into a syringe. This lets you use the smaller insulin needle which you can buy in any pharmacy, and there is no need to keep around luer lock threaded equipment anymore that you have to get off the next. Also i figure because you can pierce the septum and draw the filtered solution straight up it eliminates all risk of contamination, because you dont have to transfer to a second spoon, youre getting a perfectly filtered sterile shot that hasnt even been exposed to air and .2 membrane has removed all bacteria and particles. I am so happy about this, i feel so good that ill be doing PERFECTLY clean shots! i no longer feel like im ghetto rigging some chalky pill into a questionable solution to inject it at considerable risk of having particles build in my lungs over the years. the only downside to the ones i ordered ( and you can get around this for your solution making purposes by just ordering to 5ml capacity ) is that they are only .4ml. i gonna need about .6ml to do two of my Mallinckrodt 30mg immediate release oxycodone tablets at once. i know you arent supposed to re-use filters because bacteria can grow in the membrane. but would it be ok simply to filter each 30mg pill seperately since these filters dont have the capacity for me to do both at once? id be doing the second filtering only like 1 minute later, one pills worth of solution would already be in my final injection syringe, i would simply filter the other pill then pierce the septum again and draw up the 2nd pills worth of solution. basically what im asking is is it ok to use my filter 2 times if i only have like 45 seconds between uses. if i had a filter that had a .6ml capacity i wouldnt have to do this, but oh well. What do you think?

You should definitely check the Whatman Regular Size Uniprep which is in the 5ml size. like i said you dont have to risk any contamination from putting the solution into a 2nd spoon you can just draw it right up.

The last bits of Bupe are leaving my system, im so exciting to finally bang opiates again, and the fact that im doing a pure oxy shot has me thrilled. i feel so much better about what im doing now that im taking all these filtering and sterility measures. The cost of $1.25 PER filter is well worth the health and peace of mind it brings with it. I would normally taken 176mg of Bupe the last eleven days of been weaning, im on 12-16mg, and almost always do the 16mg. Ive only taken 49.5mg. I was feeling like shit so i took 4mg about 8 hours ago, and i went on a fucking nod dude, a fucking nod of sublingual bupe. keep in mind before i started the ween 16mg had no effect on me. It was just because i had next to nothing in my body, because what ive basically been doing is taking 2-3mg every 14-16 hours. i had gone especially long before taking the 4mg the made me nod, like my last doses were like .7mg 24 hours before that, and like 2mg 16 hours before that. it amazes how easy it was to ween down on Bupe in general though! if when i was on Oxy, Hydromorphone and H, if i had cut my daily doses by about %70 like i have with Bupe, i would been sick as a dog. I began doing this ween eleven days ago when i got my oxy because i figured i had more of blockade build up then i could comfortably wait out in a single abstinence so i could then get high. i also figured if i did a drastic ween for a long period like 11 days it would help me get higher off the oxy. I have almost adapted to about 4mg of Bupe a day, down from 16mg a day when i started this. So i should get significantly more high fromt he oxy then if i hadnt been weening from the Subs for almost 2 weeks. I havent use my veins in 21 months, so today just to test i pumped with a tourniquet and man have they recovered. my hand veins were big and bulging, the wrist/ forearm veins were too! the veins in the crease of my arm have not bounced back as well, but they have improved much. i practice registering blood with water today in preparation to be ready and calm tommorow and i got blood first try from a big fat vein in my forearm.

Anyway sorry to ramble. let me know what you think of using the filter twice, one right after another, that ill have to because of my low capacity filters.

As soon as these are about to run out, ill contact you about ordering some more
 
There is no moderation with true heroin addiction. It is a must, a full-time job to ensure that you get what you need. Use the best quality H you can find in your area (I was lucky as I lived in Southeast Asia - number four), never share needles, always try to use a new needle (difficult but if you really get your shit together possible) to minimize tissue damage (tearing) at the injection site, rotate your injection sites (right arm, right hand, left arm, left hand, repeat), and only (if you're in true active addiction) use the amount that you'll need to get and stay well for about 8 hours (average duration of heroin). Learn perfect technique, be smooth and steady as a rock, learn exactly how and where to tie off depending on the nature of the vein you're going to hit, when to loosen the tie, use around a 29 gauge Terumo insulin syringe (I like 100 units) with smooth action for booting and a higher resistance to clogging than BDs, don't fuck around with shooting pills and this and that (you're only asking for trouble), always make sure the bevel divet in the needle point is pointing upward, always shoot toward your heart, NEVER fuck with an artery, hold the syringe as closely parallel to the surface of your skin as you can, use the shortest needle you need, not too big not too small, don't reuse cottons, don't overheat if cooking is necessary, learn how to prep everything quickly and safely. Always, always, have an "out" to spare you the hellish torture of WD, three fixes a day, choose one good product and stick with it. I've been doing pretty much exactly this for 12 years; I don't have Hep C or HIV, anything else, and my track lines are nothing more than very pale, thin white lines. Sanitation, technique, and means (money) are the requirements to a more or less successful and safe heroin habit.
 
Been&Done said:
I wish i have found a way to moderately use H, but i didn't because simply there isn't!
I did H for 10 YEARS straight (smoking at start then sniffing for 8 years) The only reason i didn't live in the streets, is that throughout this LONG time, i was working and paying my whole monthly salary on H. To quit, i had to relocate and start Subutex again. Almost 2.5 months now, and life keeps getting better...but bare in mind that i was one lucky S.O.B, others have either passed, jailed or institutionalized! You really don't know what you're getting yourself into. Please think before diving head first...it's a long dark way as it's posted above. Plus, scoring and consuming H will be all you have in mind. Trust me, u don't want to go there. Enjoy life, and if you want to do drugs, do it recreational and do NOT form a habit. An H habit stays in one's mind for a loooong time, and in many cases, it never leaves you. Be smart.

In my case, feeling again was a blessing. On h, you're just bareley alive, never too happy, never too sad. Emotions are blocked by brain chemicals and life becomes gray. Anything you used to enjoy will become secondary to feeding your addiction, if you keep doing them at all!
Strange to find myself preaching about the dangers of H...coming from me! I hope i learned my lesson and learned it well, and wouldn't want to see this or worse (or much worse) happen to ANYONE! Enjoy life and what it has to offer.
(I didn't mean to sound like a parent, but they were right)
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So I just wanted to say that was perfect explination! I was only addicted for three years but thats all it takes.I started injecting when my brother passed and thats when it all went down hill. I had the idea to shoot blow to help wein off herion, it worked. I went from a couple grams a day to less than a 20(quarter of a gram),but i got up to atleast four grams of blow a day. The reson that happened was because what shooting coke does to you. You can snort it,smoke it, any way you can think of consuming it and its no where near the feeling of injecting it. I think the only way to understand is to do it, AND I DONT RECOMEND IT!!!!!! Its ture that the drugs become number onein ur life,even if you tell urself differently. I lost the one preson I loved and the one thing I had in this world because of my drug addiction. Like this guy says live your life because no one deiserves that kind of life.
 
peteypablo said:
This may get edited by the mods but i'm gonna say it anyway. Edtree made a ridiculous statement about h making life better followed by a statement about looking forward to "festival season." The only people who seem to get excited about festival season are mostly trust fund hippies (trustafarians) who can bankroll going on tour for the summer in addition to their drug habit. I'm basing this on my experience of living with a lot of spoiled hippies out west while I was in college. I know this sounds like complete trolling but it seems like people with a lot of money and leisure time don't have the opportunity to see how shitty your life can get when you have a healthy dope habit. Nothing like waking up in the morning with nothing but ice cubes in your freezer and the cold sweats wondering how the hell you are going to get high let alone eat.

In all fairness though, the fact that you bring your baggage to the drug not the other way around was a good point.

Edit: OK i just read all the posts on this thread and I realize that edtree just has a light habit and may not be a spoiled hippie but I'm going to keep my rant about trust fund hippies up.
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Exactly. It's easy to love drugs when you don't bust your ass to pay for your habit.
 
Does oxycodone count? I use 60 mg once a week so say if I used 30 mg sat and sunday I wont do it again until next monday to ensure no physical tolerance builds up and also because I am a cheap ass lol.
 
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