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Esoteric List of drugs that make you connect with entities

On one occasion I was shown a bunch of things that appeared too advanced to understand. All I could do was metaphorically politely nod in appreciation.

BELIEVE.
 
Has an alien ever said anything about advanced physics?

Actually yes.

When I was 6 years old a spirit visited me in my bed, identified as God and started negotiating my life with me, the things I wanted for it and the things he had in mind. We made an agreement and everything said during that night came true and is coming true in my subsequent life. The spirit never left my side and is on call 24/7, whether I wake or sleep, whether I'm high or sober. He's teaching me along the path of life and teaches me his version of how the universe works, so I could write a book about it at some point.

Thing is, he illustrates some of his lessons with gratuitous miracles, which he insists are merely "quantum effects on the macro level." and explains how they work. He gradually steps up the intrusiveness and decreases the deniability of these things as to not scare the liquid shit out of me. I'm trained to quite an extent now. If he were to turn the water in my water bottle into wine I would chuckle and mentally high five him and drink it out.

Should Putin nuke my town and myself and the whole city center burst into flames, I would die in complete gratitude.

I know the nature of the Multiverse and therefore, of all things now. I myself have seen proof of concept of several fundamental principles of it. You guys have not, so I must be a crackpot, to preserve your sense of reality.

For those willing to entertain a thought, including thoughts currently against the findings of present day physics, allow me to present a framework of statements. Let those who like it, like it for their reasons, and those who don't, find their entertainment elsewhere.
Lets take a lil trip all over the place..

-The Big Bang was an eruption of every possible universe of the multiverse, at the same time at once, because spacetime is a result of the Big Bang.
-All possible universes overlap each other, separated by their own set of dimensions.
-Each universe consists of its false vacuum and the things that exist within it.
-As universes expand, all things withnin them entropy away into the fabric of that false vacuum.
-When only the false vacuum remains, it has zero size, because size is relative, so it implodes into a singularity again
-That singularity can only erupt into a Big Bang again, cycling in every possible way, forever.

-The true Universe is the superposition of all things wherein the above happens, eternally.
-It is the One Thing connecting all things. It is everything that ever was is or will be, eternally.
-Its 100% you. You, me, the fishes in the sea, a grain of sand on Mars and a puff of stink from your arse: all that is all You.
-You are not your ego, you are the totality of all things, experiencing itself through all of us.
-This means that you will live every possible life, in every possible sequence, forever, and yet more. Thou Art That.
-All there is is an amount of energy of 10100,000 minimal units, 10100,000 states of the Multiverse and nothing more (the Omnicyclic number) Its all you.

-Everything is endowed with consciousness, which is a fundamental property of energy. The Big Bang was its own Observer, the Superobserver.
-Within you exists the Observer of the Ego and similar appendages, and the Superobserver, who carves your universe out of the superposition.
-As the amount of energy and information is constant, things translocate from one place/time in spacetime to the next.

So congratulations, you will reincarnate infinitely into every possible life and death for the dying basically is a teleporter trip from a deathbed to a womb somewhere else in space and time.

If you like to read a brief summary in his words, accompanied by music created by a good friend, well be my guest:



And what better way to end this woowoo post by adding a direct quote of his?

There is a beginning, and there is an end to all things.
we grieve the loss of what we hold dear and go on until we, too, end.
But! What if this universe is eternal?
What if all things that once begun and ended, will happen again in every possible way, forever?
Think about it!
You would not just have one life, but you would have every possible life, in every possible way, forever!
That means that no matter what you lose, your keys, your friends, your life, it would all come back to you, forever.
Rather than a prisoner of circumstance, you are liberated into total freedom.
Even if the sun would explode, a new earth would be, life would form on it and you will be born again into every possible reality.
Be free!
Be brave!
Play!
Work!
Achieve!
Love!
Not even all the nukes in the world can stop you!
YOU ARE ETERNAL!
 
Asante said:
Has an alien ever said anything about advanced physics?

Actually yes.

When I was 6 years old a spirit visited me in my bed, identified as God and started negotiating my life with me, the things I wanted for it and the things he had in mind. We made an agreement and everything said during that night came true and is coming true in my subsequent life. The spirit never left my side and is on call 24/7, whether I wake or sleep, whether I'm high or sober. He's teaching me along the path of life and teaches me his version of how the universe works, so I could write a book about it at some point.

Thing is, he illustrates some of his lessons with gratuitous miracles, which he insists are merely "quantum effects on the macro level." and explains how they work. He gradually steps up the intrusiveness and decreases the deniability of these things as to not scare the liquid shit out of me. I'm trained to quite an extent now. If he were to turn the water in my water bottle into wine I would chuckle and mentally high five him and drink it out.

Should Putin nuke my town and myself and the whole city center burst into flames, I would die in complete gratitude.

I know the nature of the Multiverse and therefore, of all things now. I myself have seen proof of concept of several fundamental principles of it. You guys have not, so I must be a crackpot, to preserve your sense of reality.

For those willing to entertain a thought, including thoughts currently against the findings of present day physics, allow me to present a framework of statements. Let those who like it, like it for their reasons, and those who don't, find their entertainment elsewhere.
Lets take a lil trip all over the place..

-The Big Bang was an eruption of every possible universe of the multiverse, at the same time at once, because spacetime is a result of the Big Bang.
-All possible universes overlap each other, separated by their own set of dimensions.
-Each universe consists of its false vacuum and the things that exist within it.
-As universes expand, all things withnin them entropy away into the fabric of that false vacuum.
-When only the false vacuum remains, it has zero size, because size is relative, so it implodes into a singularity again
-That singularity can only erupt into a Big Bang again, cycling in every possible way, forever.

-The true Universe is the superposition of all things wherein the above happens, eternally.
-It is the One Thing connecting all things. It is everything that ever was is or will be, eternally.
-Its 100% you. You, me, the fishes in the sea, a grain of sand on Mars and a puff of stink from your arse: all that is all You.
-You are not your ego, you are the totality of all things, experiencing itself through all of us.
-This means that you will live every possible life, in every possible sequence, forever, and yet more. Thou Art That.
-All there is is an amount of energy of 10100,000 minimal units, 10100,000 states of the Multiverse and nothing more (the Omnicyclic number) Its all you.

-Everything is endowed with consciousness, which is a fundamental property of energy. The Big Bang was its own Observer, the Superobserver.
-Within you exists the Observer of the Ego and similar appendages, and the Superobserver, who carves your universe out of the superposition.
-As the amount of energy and information is constant, things translocate from one place/time in spacetime to the next.

So congratulations, you will reincarnate infinitely into every possible life and death for the dying basically is a teleporter trip from a deathbed to a womb somewhere else in space and time.

If you like to read a brief summary in his words, accompanied by music created by a good friend, well be my guest:



And what better way to end this woowoo post by adding a direct quote of his?

There is a beginning, and there is an end to all things.
we grieve the loss of what we hold dear and go on until we, too, end.
But! What if this universe is eternal?
What if all things that once begun and ended, will happen again in every possible way, forever?
Think about it!
You would not just have one life, but you would have every possible life, in every possible way, forever!
That means that no matter what you lose, your keys, your friends, your life, it would all come back to you, forever.
Rather than a prisoner of circumstance, you are liberated into total freedom.
Even if the sun would explode, a new earth would be, life would form on it and you will be born again into every possible reality.
Be free!
Be brave!
Play!
Work!
Achieve!
Love!
Not even all the nukes in the world can stop you!
YOU ARE ETERNAL!
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What proof did you see, or learn?
 
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I had an encounter when having a high dose of 4-ho-mipt, it was quite shocking since I'd never had one, I ran to another room to play piano and then it dissapeared and became fractals (with the sound)
I wasn't expecting that...
 
Skorpio said:
What's that?
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Thomas Ray experiments with reframing receptor types as actual organs, parts of the mind, mental organs. I'm not sure how useful it actually is.. I mean, the receptors are spread out all over so "circuits" would make more sense than visualizing organs, right? Maybe he didn't want to encroach upon Leary's territory. Anyway, it apparently helps him to get closer to the front line of neurochemistry. He had more to say than anyone else I know of about the link between the mind's function of indicating/simulating other minds, and histamine.

He has exciting visions to share about the future of drug design as well.


@Ismene
You keep arousing laughs from the audience, but yes I've corresponded with one scientist for a while who got his scientific breakthrough from asking an entity on a deep trip. The vision generated hypotheses, which are currently being confirmed, and it's looking as promising as it gets. I knew of the guy a while before I started sending out manic emails, but didn't look closer because it sounds as hippy crap as anything gets to sound of course. I knew of all the scientists who got their ideas on acid, but I drew the line behind my heels and averted my gaze from entity stories, to which I can't personally relate. But now I've looked closer, I can't ignore the science. That doesn't have to confer reality status to anything the scientific seers experience, but it disproves it's as ridiculous an affair as you make it out to be.

@Asante
You lose me from the point you start framing any possible objection as preservation of our poor brittle sense of reality, by the way. Pointing out defense mechanisms beforehand is itself a defense mechanism. And if you know "the nature of all things", then you should also know that the verbal vehicle is limited in its ability to convey truth, and can't uphold a promise of that magnitude. And you're far from the only one ever to bring back insights from trips. There's something there between the woo. The structure of the nervous system and what it generates reveals itself in all stories this earnest. But overselling it detracts from it.
 
Neuroborean said:
I had an encounter when having a high dose of 4-ho-mipt, it was quite shocking since I'd never had one, I ran to another room to play piano and then it dissapeared and became fractals (with the sound)
I wasn't expecting that...
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Could you hear or taste the fractals? On a very high dose of LSD I saw fractals come out of a ray of light from Christmas lights in my room, and they made noises and sounds.

Also once on mushrooms or very good Sativa pot trainwreck strain that made me trip like I was on a low dose of shrooms, I tasted the color yellow and it tasted like snow or dampness but without the cold temperature.
 
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Chris Timothy said:
Thomas Ray experiments with reframing receptor types as actual organs, parts of the mind, mental organs. I'm not sure how useful it actually is.. I mean, the receptors are spread out all over so "circuits" would make more sense than visualizing organs, right? Maybe he didn't want to encroach upon Leary's territory. Anyway, it apparently helps him to get closer to the front line of neurochemistry. He had more to say than anyone else I know of about the link between the mind's function of
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I am not sure I see the value in that. The classical definition of organ refers to the hierarchy of cells < tissue < organ that are still in the same functional unit. I assume by referring to receptors, he is referring to cell types that contain receptors rather than the population of receptors alone (this distinction is important because many cell types will have a few types of receptor, where the output of the cell is dependant on multiple inputs).

I think viewing the organization of the brain as circuits consisting of different cell types that are organized to get different functional effects (ie dopamine neurons with GABA inputs is an example of a cell type. A good example of a circuit would be the interlinking direct and indirect pathways of the dopamine system. See figure 6:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23637194/ )

So I got to reading about Ray to try to understand what the deal with the whole Rayan organ thing was, and after reading the manuscript: Mental Organs and the Breadth & Depth of Consciousness" (link below), I must say while I disagree with the manner Ray organizes his model of consciousness, I do like some of the paradigms he suggests.

He basically divides the multiferous receptors a psychadelic drug acts on into separate systems and assigns each one a component of the subjective psychadelic experience. I think this is an interesting approach to determining the reasons behind different flavors of experience produced by different drugs, but as a whole I feel the paper is quite reductive (he lists all of these different neurotransmitters ascribing different facets of consciousness to them without a great deal of data, leading to statements like this:

"Most mental organs characterized by (Ray, 2012) are affective. While it appears that archaic/childhood kappa consciousness can hold only affective content, modern/adult 5-HT7 consciousness appears to be backward compatible, in the sense that it can hold both affective and cognitive content. Kappa consciousness has been described as “thought free awareness” (Arthur, 2010). While kappa may have provided the only form of consciousness available to the archaic mind throughout the lifespan, it appears that modern humans are born into kappa consciousness, but by adulthood kappa consciousness has been replaced by 5-HT7 consciousness. As adult
humans, we experience a largely cognitive mentality, and it can be difficult to understand affective mental states. Thus I will illustrate affective states with examples of three affective
content mental organs (alpha-2, beta, histamine):"

This statement makes extremely broad claims about the contribution of the koala opioid receptor to consciousness seemingly without any base in its known roles (activation of kappa opioid receptor is linked with stress and depressive states, and modulates the values of reward). This paper is littered with extremely paradigm changing claims that really have only affinity data of psychadelic drugs to back this up.

I admit I am fairly dogmatic. I feel that one should use the established Lexicon to allow information to be transmitted freely rather than creating a new web of connotations on existing terms to fit a bespoke theory. If one is to challange a paradigm, there better be damn good evidence for that.

I wish there was experimental evidence to test this theory, because there are some very interesting correlations (5HT7 affinity of a drug can form a correlation with out of body type experiences) was a particular one with a good clustering and good rationale (comparing it to 5ht2a vs obe which did not cluster as well).


My final gripe is that I don't really agree with some of his classification of drug subjective effects. He describes DOB thusly:

"DOB and MEM are a problem for the 5-HT2 paradigm because they are both very selective full agonists for the three 5-HT2 receptors, yet they lack most of the subjective qualities associated
with psychedelic drugs.
DOB and MEM have perceptible interactions only with the three 5-HT2 receptors: 5-HT2A, 5-HT2B, and 5-HT2C. DOB and MEM ought to be paradigmatic psychedelics, but they are not.
Their effects are relatively subtle, and higher doses do not produce more psychedelic effects. On the contrary, as the dose is increased, they tend to shut thoughts and feelings out of
consciousness, producing a mentally closed state, which many users find unpleasant and
unproductive."

I really disagree with that characterization of DOB. Increasing the dosehas led me to very profound and deep psychedelic states. I think this is the crux of my issue with this paper, is that drugs are very confidently described to have these subtle subjective effects, which often I don't agree with. Due to the lack of proper experimentation, I am wary about many of the claims (although it would be interesting to see them tested somehow in a more rigorous manner).

Edit: I don't want to end this on such a negative note. I feel the questions he touches on are extremely important (ie why do drugs which have similar affinities to "canonical" psychedelic receptors have such different effects (ie 2cb and 2ce)? I just think a lot of the defined terms he uses for each receptor system ascribe too much and too complex of a thing to each receptor. I feel that many of these states can be achieved in more than one way so that while a given receptor affinity of a drug can increase the odds of an experience it by no means is the only way to have that experience. I am not sure how to formalize such a top down view of cognition without being reductive, and that is kind of where I felt such tension with this paper.

Anyway thanks for the ref @Chris Timothy this Thomas Ray dude is pretty interesting.

 
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Surely there should be scientific breakhroughs coming from this alien contact unless theyve made some sort of agreement to "never raise the quality of discussion beyond half baked hippy theories of "egodeath"
 
PriestTheyCalledHim said:
I have never used it and have no desire to use it-vomiting while tripping is not my idea of fun-but Ayahuasca with or without Datura makes people experience entities.
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I found this recipe for datura on here that was used by Shamans and Witches when performing rituals, you basically turn it into a sort of lotion using charred animal fat and then rub it on certain parts of your body to experience different things, like rubbing it on your feet will make you feel like you're flying. It said that these 2 books:
The Teachings of don Juan
A Separate Reality
contain a bunch of such recipes
 
PriestTheyCalledHim said:
Could you hear or taste the fractals? On a very high dose of LSD I saw fractals come out of a ray of light from Christmas lights in my room, and they made noises and sounds.

Also once on mushrooms or very good Sativa pot trainwreck strain that made me trip like I was on a low dose of shrooms, I tasted the color yellow and it tasted like mold, or dampness.
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it was more like every series of chords that I played had a color and I was washed and surrounded by those colors when playing, and fractals appearing in connexion with those colors/notes.
 
PriestTheyCalledHim said:
What proof did you see, or learn?
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Thank you for asking, seriously. Very many things of different natures, i will name just two as they were very very stark.

The first one: One day I was with a friend in another town and went home by bus. I found I had no money so my friend gave me a €10 on the spot. I paid the bus driver for a €6 ticket and got 2 coins of €2 which went into an empty pants pocket. The other day I was at the swimming pool and got cramping in my feet. God told me: "you should drink a can of soda, in fact, its on me! So my mind goes "awesome, how does that work?" "Your pants pocket with 2 coins now holds 3!" Stimulated by this notion I gimped over (cramping feet) to my locker, put my hand into the pants pocket and... retrieved 3 coins! My mood couldn't be beat, so I thought. I put 2 coins back into the pocket and with the gifted coin bought a can of soda and drank it. Indeed, the cramping subsided. "Have another. Repeatability is everything!" "There is NO WAY!" "Have a dig in Schrodingers pants pocket." Went to my locker, into that pocket and.. again retrieved 3 coins. "How?!" "Drink up my man." new can of soda, drinking it. In the mean while he explained. (paraphrasing)

"This Miracle to you is really quantum physics applied to the Macro level. You have two observers here, you, the Observer and me, the Superobserver. To you but not to me, your pants pocket was unobserved. I am the Superobserver, omnipresent and with the ability to collapse the superposition both ways. The Universe is the superposition of all things. There is a finite, absolute amount of information and energy, so I simply took, on two separate occasions, two unobserved 2 euro coins back into superposition and collapsed them from there into your pocket. I didn't steal them: These were two lost, ownerless coins I salvaged for our physics experiment. Which, might I add, was twice announced before the fact, thus demonstrated to be repeatable."

I asked: "What's a Superobserver?" "There is only one, the one that is you, and the coins, and in fact all things. The Superobserver is the foundation of al consciousness, I'm the one that is all, and the part that validates the transaction, in this case a translocation, absorbing coins into and collapsing them out of the superposition of all things."

"If you do this for me in a laboratory under controlled conditions, I'd get the Nobel Prize in Physics!" "uhuh, and the tabloids rummaging to your trash like raccoons to headline "Hypocritical fatty ate yet another tub of icecream!"

"So you can translocate any object of any place and time, anywhere?" "I could snatch Fat Man out of the sky as it dropped to Nagasaki and put in in your living room, live or disabled. I don't think your neighbors would approve of Fat Man materializing nextdoor, live and below its set detonation altitude, though they wouldnt even be aware of what came next, until after the fact."

"So scientists are supercooling 10,000 Rubidium atoms to a Bose-Einsten condensate near absolute zero, manage to apply a quantum effect to that and call that a breakthrough.. And.. You are doing the same, basically with a sextillion or so atoms, a coin, twice announced repeated, in a swimming pool locker at room temperature?" "Maybe?" "Maybe?" "Double-check if your 2 coins are still there to complete the experiment." I did, and they were, and I was still burping soda burps :)

Thats one thing.

Another thing: on 8-8-2019 God asked me to lie down and open my mind for an important message. So I did, and he described that his choice for the worldwide catastrophy, first in a series, had fallen on a global pandemic, which would come on short notice, and he asked me to take preparations to lock down. He told me that in this series of calamities, about half a billion people will die. That rattled my cage. He told me about the purposes of this sequence of events and to prepare in advance. He also told me to make a desktop image, a black square simply showing a biohazard symbol and .5 gigadeath, and keep it on my desktop for a bit to help anchor it in my mind. Four months later: COVID. Which is why I raised such a bloody stink about it at the Shroomery and had downloadable files etc regarding calamity.

Nice words of course, but thing is, if you make an image, there is metadata showing the date the image is made, no? Yes.

Covid.jpg


I don't give a fuck about having been right about Covid, because it wasnt me being right, what worries the crap out of me is that Covid was presented as the first in a series of catastrophies to come that was rated as 500 million dead and so far the pandemic manifested 4 months later and we're already .003 gigadeath into the first, correctly predicted catastrophy, by very conservative estimate.

So I'm hoping that the .5 Gd prediction is the uncertainty principle worming its way out of the equasion, one fact and one factoid and that we're not really at the dawn of 10 world war's worth of deaths.

So, like I've been saying everywhere, take a months worth of supplies in your home, tell your friends and be vigilant.

God's told me that He's exposing me to events that are increasingly improbable and decreasingly refutable not to shock me too hard, too fast.

This Covid stuff is part of it. if it shocks you, too hard, too fast, feel free to disregard it. I'm imagining things, foisting fables or whatnot, take your pick.

Plenty of refutability for you, just about irrefutable to me. Improbabilities stack, and I've seen too much to rationally refute that something is going on that requires an adjustment of the prevailing hypotheses regarding the fabric of reality.

When asked, "God" says: "Humanity veered off from the notion of God through rational application of logic through science. From many directions at once will come proof, to science, that a centralized consciousness is at work and this explosion of serendipity all over the world will be its own demonstration that consciousness is central, and not confined to seperate brains. Many fuses for the singularity are already lit, yours, Asante, the book we will write, is one of many.
Unfortunately the uncertainty of both the pandemic and the total death count of the series of calamities, both can be seen as pinpointing position and that therefore, the when of them, the velocity, is the uncertainty factor. Alas, both are valid and I apologize in advance for the great turmoil of the coming years. It is not to punish anyone but a necessity in tending to the herd. All are Eternal, including the fallen, who are martyrs to the Cause of this transition. They will be well received and compensated in the Beyond."
 
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Duplicating money? God, I summon thee!

You do realize that all what you're saying is more easily explained by manifestations of the human brain than anything else right. This doesn't even seem like a possibility you've considered.
People always talk about God and aliens from an overly human and societal perspective, suspiciously fitting concepts that people have been talking about since forever. Like duplicating/creating objects from scratch, and an 'apocalypse'. But a desktop background? Come on.
 
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