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Let's talk about the benefits or evils of using antipsychotics/benzos to kill a trip

In my experience, having a benzo handy was especially good for my friend who all of a sudden got two anxiety filled shrooms trips in a row for no reason and was hesitant to do shrooms again. Just having the benzo handy and knowing he could take it if he wanted to made him relax way more and not worry about if he was gunna have a bad trip or not and he ended up having an amazing time.
 
personally i only take benzos so i can sleep without having commentaries in my head for an hour in bed as i return to baseline. More recently with 2ci
 
e1evene1even said:
I just got eight 0.5mg Risperidone pills the other day and would like to know how many would be needed to completely stop a trip?
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I was "wrongly" prescribed risperidone because of my "madness".
It fucked me badly, I completely lost my memory, I couldn't remember anything, I'm a techy and I forgot about technical stuff.
That scared the hell out of me, I don't think risperidone is a drug to be used in a casual non-prescribed context, its heavier than any psychedelic I've taken.
I wouldn't take that shit even if prescribed but to take it outside a non-medical context is bonkers, its scarily strong stuff.
If you're that concerned don't bother tripping, if you have to use crazymeds to come down you shouldn't be going up in the first place, its not your bag baby.
As for benzos the fact that are massively addictive makes me think naaaaah fuck that shit.
 
Youkai said:
I thionk alot of people hear about amazing life changing expreinces and are in search for those. But they dont realise is that that bad trip is the same thing, I for one at one point in time (never worried abouta ctualy stoping it) had no idea what it was till one day while tripping I realised that I was there the entire time and just didnt realise it. You know, it happends and it not THAT crazy, so you think there is more to it, but in this case the first time got either to crazy or you didnt know what psycheelics fully bring. but regaurdless you want to try to get there again and try to keep your cool, but I guess these people asking about stopping trips want there cake and eat it too.

I dont know, tripping is easy now, sure it has monumental properties on the expereince it produces and how/why but realy I mean, its just that. I can feel shitty sober, I can feel good sober, you can feel the same things but to a different magnitude while tripping, just feel good and its all smooth sailing. I still have difficult expereinces, but I think of when Im sober, I'll have good train of thought for some time and then wham! out of the blue I have somnething that kinda turns me down, same thing will happend when your tripping, but this time its amplified and your brain is working extra hard in the interpitation of what you experienced.
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I think bad trips are usually things “coming up” or “surfacing” in yourself. I have had a couple hard trips that I just breathed and survived through and when they can to a conclusion, plateau, release,(how ever you want to describe it) it was just the best feeling, like my soul was set free of a demon.

Eating a benzo to me would feel like a demon surfaced and I just threw a blanket over it. It's still there, just waiting for the blanket to fall off.

That's just me. not everyone is like that I am sure, tons of people probably freak out and come to no conclusions.
 
I think it's always good to have some benzos around. Most of the time you won't even need them, but sometimes they work miracles. And properly dosed benzos can kill (or only dampen) just the anxiety without affecting the trip to much, just dose them right.
 
blauwelichten said:
I was "wrongly" prescribed risperidone because of my "madness".
It fucked me badly, I completely lost my memory, I couldn't remember anything, I'm a techy and I forgot about technical stuff.
That scared the hell out of me, I don't think risperidone is a drug to be used in a casual non-prescribed context, its heavier than any psychedelic I've taken.
I wouldn't take that shit even if prescribed but to take it outside a non-medical context is bonkers, its scarily strong stuff.
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I have heard that story many times, prescribing Risperidone to people who shouldn't be getting it. Not many people are fans of it, more like victims of it. And I agree its way too strong to be using just because you had a bad trip.


VancouveriteStoner said:
In my experience, having a benzo handy was especially good for my friend who all of a sudden got two anxiety filled shrooms trips in a row for no reason and was hesitant to do shrooms again. Just having the benzo handy and knowing he could take it if he wanted to made him relax way more and not worry about if he was gunna have a bad trip or not and he ended up having an amazing time.
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That's a good idea since bad trips are all in your head anyway just having them there could prevent a bad trip.
I have taken benzos twice in my life both times I got bad headaches, I didn't like them at all. I have never aborted a trip, I bought the ticket so I am taking the ride. I am still sort of against the idea, unless you are thinking of going to the hospital, because no one should go to the hospital for LSD or mushrooms. If you take benzos all the time because the trip is too much you probably shouldn't take psychedelics. Lots of people shouldn't take psychedelics.
 
shypht said:
I think that some people get so worried about bad trips, how to prepare for bad trips, what to do if a bad trip goes wrong, how to abort bad trips, and needing every last detail perfect in their trip - simply creates a bad mindset that is more likely to lead to a bad trip than simply 'going with the flow.'

If all that is on your mind prior to tripping is '...what if the trip goes bad', seems to lay down a pretty poor mindset for tripping.
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I've been having this problem lately. My last trip, however, I took the plunge when I was in an uneasy mindset and I came out with a revelation about myself and my subconscious processes - I would consider it a 'bad but good' trip. I should add that recently my best friend just moved across the country so I have been in a lot of emotional stress (I also have social anxiety disorder). My negative thoughts and excessive preparation for bad trips seems to be a distortion of my worry for the future, what can I ever do without my friend, etc. I only started experiencing this problem after he moved. Anyone have tips to break the loop?
 
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I don't see why this is becomming debated, just like psychedelics themselves it's dependent on the person.

In some cases they are positive for people loosing their shit and if you've seen it happen you'll understand, othertimes sleep is needed people have lives and routines and reality and sometimes these can help balance it out. Also if you take them regularly yourself, not taking them can then lead to anxiety just due to withdrawal. Plus it's a lovely high.

But, for many trips it is best to change the set and setting, create distraction, comfort/positivity understand it is a drug and allow yourself to learn from it. Understand why it happens, as stupid as it is grow by learning from your mistakes which can be applied into real life too. If you're dosing someone with benzos (my recommendation) try and get them to ride it out first, breath techniques etc before, sometimes it can be dealt with before jumping in straight, otherwise start low and act like it's high - placebos a wonder and you've no idea the difference that 5-10mg of diaz can make on someones night especially if they've been say caining stims then took acid and weren't expecting paranoia.

All depends. Also for all the people out there who are 'hard headed' about it and say if you need benzos you shouldn't trip. Keep in mind when it comes to theraputic and proper legitimate uses of LSD - ways to get the stuff accepted, people have probably attempted things like benzos before as a fix. Just seems contradictory if it's all so 'great' then.

I always keep a diaz/clonaz when tripping. Been an aid many a time. :)
 
^I think all these 'hard headed' people have simply never experienced a truely horrifying trip to the seventh circle of hell. Because if they had, they would know that there is nothing to be found there. There are no insights, no revelations just pain and agony.

I would never trip again without benzos/anti psychotics.
 
Personnally I enjoy having the benzo safety net. I usually end up taking one near the very end of a strong trip anyway, when all the shit's over but you can't quite sleep yet.

In fact, I don't undersand what you don't understand. It is in the end about safety and peace of mind.

The problem would arise if you found yourself frequently killing your trips with benzo's, because you are not enjoying tripping anymore fundamentally.

As it is, everyone has bad, even hellish trips once in awhile and it's about having the possibility and peace of mind of being able to kill those.
 
Once I took like 4 tabs of LSD and I was tripping real hard, then "Drug Ballad" by Eminem came on. And it immediately gave me a bad trip. I thought I had lost my mind permanently. I was paranoid that my mind was gone. And I was "trippin" that my mind felt all fucked up and out of wack. I stopped the trip with an anti-psychotic. I don't agree that by stopping a trip, you're running away from a problem. It's not problems in my life that causes a bad trip, it's the drug itself that causes the bad trip. Stopping a trip with an anti-psychotic is one of the worst most uncomfortable feelings in the world. You try to sleep but you can't stay still. God is that horrible. I've had a bad trip before that fucked me up real bad and when I found out anti-psychotics stop a trip, I make sure to keep them safe nearby. Rather be safe than sorry.
 
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