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to be fair to our dear Lord, i think our inner experience of "bliss" ("divine" states of being) has just as much to do with his creation.
More to the point, where are some examples of Occam's Razor being a totally off-base? Wouldn't such examples, by definition, be "supernatural" or "miraculous" to some degree? I can't really think of any at the moment, but I hope other people can.
Well said - the connection between religion & heroin is clear to me - one should not foist either onto other people.
What a useless thread![]()
We're alive, the life process.
Death is a part of the life process.
We're a part of something bigger.
Can we have a definition of God (if someone didnt mention it already)?
The biblical controdiction I have yet to have seen logically debunked. GOD IS IMPERFECT by his own word
So, we have a machine. Now this machine stamps perfect circles out of metal. It will never break down, it never needs repair or servicing. It is a perfect machine. But one day the machine made an imperfect circle. The machine thusly is not only imperfect but was always imperfect because it would and did have the capacity to fail.
Now we apply this to God, god is a supposedly perfect being, god created an imperfect being. Seeing as something perfect cannot create something imperfect god is imperfect. This applies to both satan/ other cherubs and angels
as well as Adam an eve.
The most common argument against this is also illogical. And that is god created them imperfect on purpose; why you ask? Becasue that would mean that perfection can contain or create imperfection, meaning that perfection can contain imperfection which contradicts the meaning of perfection.
Definition of perfect: entirely and completely without flaw.Define perfect, define imperfect, define how creation can come from nothing. Then you would have the minimum to make a valid argument (no offense). The only perfect being, is Being itself. That which is "fixed and unchangeable" and consists of the world both phenomenon and noumenon. Since there can be no contradiction of Being since it goes against its properties (which is the whole of your argument), then the only conception of imperfection is in our language which permits the notion. Let me let you in of a secret, it is only when one comes forth into language, that is when "imperfection" is possible..Or when one comes into existence, that is when this notion is legitimate. Noone has ever seen God, No one has ever seen God speak, God's name is forbidden to be spoken of (YHVH), everything we associate with him has come from, as the Prophet Amos said, "through his prophets". those who were attuned to the voice of Being (They were like the Dr. Houses of society, they saw what most people didn't see) and this is not even taking into account the history of the writing of Bible, in which Being is hidden more and more in interpretation (Documentary Hypothesis? Do you know that God in the 1st Chapter of the Bible is plural: Elohim?). Therefore again, we cannot speak of a God unless we bring a definition in which we can prove or disprove.
people and science prove themselves to be wrong all the time, God has just never had the need.
Never had the need for what? To prove himself wrong?
I have a couple questions for him: childhood cancer, tsunamis, tornadoes, scholiosis, cystic fibrosis, degenerative diseases, terminal diseases, plagues, famine, negative inherent human characteristics, and war, just to name a few.
Never had the need for what? To prove himself wrong?
I have a couple questions for him: childhood cancer, tsunamis, tornadoes, scholiosis, cystic fibrosis, degenerative diseases, terminal diseases, plagues, famine, negative inherent human characteristics, and war, just to name a few.