junkie skumbag
Bluelighter
Lol u may think that but each time i have had one of these "legal" pills i could feel the damage it was doing to my body n never had a good time on em neither have 5+ of my mates
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Legal pills. Giggle and Diablo
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Lol u may think that but each time i have had one of these "legal" pills i could feel the damage it was doing to my body n never had a good time on em neither have 5+ of my mates
Mr Blonde
Bluelighter
Oxycondone, what is/are the active ingredients in these tablets?
These pills and literally 100's of other random chems depending on your definition of "a little work".
Also, is in no way economical even if it is possible. Not with the bong shop prices anyway 8)
But before this conversation gets the thread closed --------------------
I think legal highs should be banned if they're not able to list the active ingedients, not based on popularity. As from having a read through every bit of packaging from these pills I sure as hell couldnt find anything that would give the effects I was seeing in those that consumed them.
Although with australias laws nothing can really be sold as what it is. Which I find worse than the current situation with illegal pills, at least with the illegal ones you have SOME chance of getting something safe and rewarding, not really the case with what you buy from shops.
WarChild
Bluelighter
I've done a LOT of the legal high style pills, and all of them affect your consciousness in various ways, but i've not come accross any that make you 'loved up' or come close to the MDMA experience ... if any of these substances were any good they would be illegal.
thestudent14
Bluelighter
Did anyone end up finding out what the other active chemical was in legal pills. I remember psilo had a friend looking into it at one stage but was having little luck because the spectroscopy was a bitch for it
, and I can't remember ever getting a definitive answer.
Perhaps you'd know footscrazy?
, and I can't remember ever getting a definitive answer.
Perhaps you'd know footscrazy?
Mr Blonde
Bluelighter
Oxycondone apparently knows but he isn't sharing his knowledge yet...
AfterGlow
Bluelighter
As long as people keeping buying this kind of crap, they'll keep producing and selling this instead of our beloved MDMA.
belarki
Bluelight Crew
Dmaa
You can get mass amounts of DMAA of ebay, cheap...
Its fun to do if you got nothing else! In small amounts! I wouldn't recommend dumping big amounts nor would I recommend redosing at all...
Dosage max about 300mg....
Anything more expect spewing and sickness, NEVER redose or SNORT! It'll fuck your shit up!
You can get mass amounts of DMAA of ebay, cheap...
Its fun to do if you got nothing else! In small amounts! I wouldn't recommend dumping big amounts nor would I recommend redosing at all...
Dosage max about 300mg....
Anything more expect spewing and sickness, NEVER redose or SNORT! It'll fuck your shit up!
belarki
Bluelight Crew
^ agreed, not pleasant to insufflate. Also NEVER inject 1,3-DMAA; I believe there was one death reported in NZ from this. Sorry I don't have a link though...
legal_limit
Bluelighter
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these are poison
Hes a trip report i did on the giggles a while ago.. Stay away! Its such a dirty high.. it gets you "high" but not in a nice way in my opinion
70kg male
Summary: 2 hour buzz didnt really like it would advise taking a half and taking the otehr half after an hour. (if you are set on taking it..)
09:45 - 1 on empty stomache no breakfast with water at work (desk job)
10:00 - Nothing noticable yet, started chewing some sugar free gum.
10:10 - Feeling a slight buzz, doesnt feel like caffiene my stomache feels fine its just .. slightly there.. but nice, i feel kind of numb all over.. or is this all a placebo? I don't think so. Slight dissosciative feeling has come over me. Quite fine to just sit here at my desk, no urge to get up.
10:15 - Went and had a chat to a few people, feeling a little bit more chatty then normal, all the feelings i listed before are still here.
10:20 - Heart rate has picked up a bit, feeling a bit of anxiety from doing this at work. Definitely getting a bit speedy now, Comparable to the peak of 5mg dexamphetamine. Still not getting that caffiene "stomache" feeling.
10:45 - Went up to other floor to do some work, cold flushes came over me got very anxious heartrate high had to leave. I thought i was having a heart attack. went across to shops and got sausage roll and juice as worried about empty stomache, pupils normal... The whole heart rate thing has annoyed me. i think i had heart palpitations it would go fast and slow..
11:10 - Feeling euphoric now just still anxious.. I have a bit of visual distortion i feel a little bit more energetic then usual not much tho. Euphoricness is same as a low mdma pill but without any of the good feelings. Pretty weird.. I Dunno if i like this.
11:30 - Feeling pretty dizzy, mind is clear though, legs feel a bit weak. Heart feels weird. Not much energy just feel euhhh.. Pupils just slightly larger then normal. This feels manageable now its a little bit hard to talk to people i kinda am over this now.
11:40 - yeah same feelings, my heart seems to feel normal now but, just got that euphoric feeling.. walking through the city will be interesting at lunch i guess.. main feeling now is just the whole visual distortion which is only minor. Still feeling a bit dizzy though. Feeling pretty lazy...
11:45 - feeling pretty tired.
11:50 - i could honestly go to sleep right now. I think the euphoria has died down too..
12:00 - Still feeling weak, tired, only slightly euphoric. Pretty much as if i havent slept for 2 days but without the headache..
12:15 effect slowly turning into nothingness.
Hes a trip report i did on the giggles a while ago.. Stay away! Its such a dirty high.. it gets you "high" but not in a nice way in my opinion
70kg male
Summary: 2 hour buzz didnt really like it would advise taking a half and taking the otehr half after an hour. (if you are set on taking it..)
09:45 - 1 on empty stomache no breakfast with water at work (desk job)
10:00 - Nothing noticable yet, started chewing some sugar free gum.
10:10 - Feeling a slight buzz, doesnt feel like caffiene my stomache feels fine its just .. slightly there.. but nice, i feel kind of numb all over.. or is this all a placebo? I don't think so. Slight dissosciative feeling has come over me. Quite fine to just sit here at my desk, no urge to get up.
10:15 - Went and had a chat to a few people, feeling a little bit more chatty then normal, all the feelings i listed before are still here.
10:20 - Heart rate has picked up a bit, feeling a bit of anxiety from doing this at work. Definitely getting a bit speedy now, Comparable to the peak of 5mg dexamphetamine. Still not getting that caffiene "stomache" feeling.
10:45 - Went up to other floor to do some work, cold flushes came over me got very anxious heartrate high had to leave. I thought i was having a heart attack. went across to shops and got sausage roll and juice as worried about empty stomache, pupils normal... The whole heart rate thing has annoyed me. i think i had heart palpitations it would go fast and slow..
11:10 - Feeling euphoric now just still anxious.. I have a bit of visual distortion i feel a little bit more energetic then usual not much tho. Euphoricness is same as a low mdma pill but without any of the good feelings. Pretty weird.. I Dunno if i like this.
11:30 - Feeling pretty dizzy, mind is clear though, legs feel a bit weak. Heart feels weird. Not much energy just feel euhhh.. Pupils just slightly larger then normal. This feels manageable now its a little bit hard to talk to people i kinda am over this now.
11:40 - yeah same feelings, my heart seems to feel normal now but, just got that euphoric feeling.. walking through the city will be interesting at lunch i guess.. main feeling now is just the whole visual distortion which is only minor. Still feeling a bit dizzy though. Feeling pretty lazy...
11:45 - feeling pretty tired.
11:50 - i could honestly go to sleep right now. I think the euphoria has died down too..
12:00 - Still feeling weak, tired, only slightly euphoric. Pretty much as if i havent slept for 2 days but without the headache..
12:15 effect slowly turning into nothingness.
Here's something that happened to me recently (few months back).
I misdosed the DMAA, what I thought to be 70 mg was 700 mg... No need to get into how stupid it was, it was unbelievably careless and stupid of me. I am usually a very safe and responsible user. What followed was me passing out in the toilet after experiencing a headache which I believe is probably how cluster headaches feels like. I was found covered in my sweat, drenched and unconscious in my toilet with my pants down.
I had insane vertigo, nausea for the following next three days. I also threw up and lost roughly 2-3 kg of water weight in the time frame. I'm an athlete so I carry quite low levels of body fat as well, but following the DMAA overdose man was I in quite a badly dehydrated state, resembling a skeleton. I was lucky to come out unscathed, without lasting damage or any damage at all. Those 3 days easily rival my worst withdrawals from other substances.
Take care if you're using it recreationally, it's a pretty awful stimulant imo. As a pre-workout stimulant for weight lifting though, it is quite useful and effective.
I misdosed the DMAA, what I thought to be 70 mg was 700 mg... No need to get into how stupid it was, it was unbelievably careless and stupid of me. I am usually a very safe and responsible user. What followed was me passing out in the toilet after experiencing a headache which I believe is probably how cluster headaches feels like. I was found covered in my sweat, drenched and unconscious in my toilet with my pants down.
I had insane vertigo, nausea for the following next three days. I also threw up and lost roughly 2-3 kg of water weight in the time frame. I'm an athlete so I carry quite low levels of body fat as well, but following the DMAA overdose man was I in quite a badly dehydrated state, resembling a skeleton. I was lucky to come out unscathed, without lasting damage or any damage at all. Those 3 days easily rival my worst withdrawals from other substances.
Take care if you're using it recreationally, it's a pretty awful stimulant imo. As a pre-workout stimulant for weight lifting though, it is quite useful and effective.
footscrazy
Bluelight Crew
^ That sounds terrible clipses. So glad you're ok and have no lasting damage now.
A very apt warning for everyone to be careful with these substances, 'legal' doesn't mean safe.
A very apt warning for everyone to be careful with these substances, 'legal' doesn't mean safe.
^ it's more synonymous with "stay the fuck away", considering all you read about "legal highs" on bluelight.
whenever i go into one of these dodgy stores selling "legal highs" i shudder at the steady stream of uninformed people buying handfuls of this shit. and i'm horrified at the bullshit i hear the shop attendants say...almost to the point of wanting to say something, but i just think "it's not your place, just walk away".
whenever i go into one of these dodgy stores selling "legal highs" i shudder at the steady stream of uninformed people buying handfuls of this shit. and i'm horrified at the bullshit i hear the shop attendants say...almost to the point of wanting to say something, but i just think "it's not your place, just walk away".
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Absolutely mate, I have a friend who swears by the synthetic cannabis RCs nowadays since bulk powder is much cheaper, which is incredibly upsetting to me as to me. Without conclusive evidence of long term effects of usage, we can never be too careful with using em. Once in a blue moon is fine, but when you're transitioning as a daily cannabis smoker to a daily jwh user, who really knows what the long term effects are. I preach and preach, but he never listens.
I'm glad that Australia didn't have problems with the "bath salts" RCs that other countries had, that would have been a huge trainwreck for people who believe legal = safe.
@footscrazy,
cheers for the concern, it was quite a terrifying experience and absolutely agree with legal doesn't mean safe.
footscrazy
Bluelight Crew
clipses said:
pv has been a prob here, but I agree, it's probably been a lot better that these things weren't available over the counter here. Whilst I think anyone should be able to take whatever they want, I think pv took a lot of people by surprise - they weren't prepared for it's adverse effects, because that information wasn't readily available.
what i don't think people bargained on was MDPV being more fiendish and psychosis-enducing than methamphetamine!
there is this odd perception that if something isn't bought from a drug dealer, it is somehow safer. i guess i can see the simple logic behind this, but in regard to RCs, it just isn't true.
i totally agree that the daily use of synthetic cannabinoids is a scary prospect, and i hope all of the "legal highs" munching masses come away from this without any serious long-term health problems.
there is this odd perception that if something isn't bought from a drug dealer, it is somehow safer. i guess i can see the simple logic behind this, but in regard to RCs, it just isn't true.
i totally agree that the daily use of synthetic cannabinoids is a scary prospect, and i hope all of the "legal highs" munching masses come away from this without any serious long-term health problems.
psy_fairee
Greenlighter
Not personally, but I've heard from other people that the Giggles are about 1.5 times the strength on the diablos.
As a rule these legal pills are considerred fairly dangerous to be having a few of. If you have a read through the other legal pill threads there is a fair bit of info on them.
They get a very bad rap from most drug users. But try not comparing them to MDMA, because the chemical is completely different. Most people I've heard say it felt like shitty whip (meth)
at low doses, but having higher amounts of the legal pills is very common to make you throw up and feel nauseas as you said happened to you.
I know a few other bluelighters have a true hatred towards that drug because it's more responsible for alot of people getting sick at festivals then you would think (Far more then MDMA or Whip caused)
When you try the other giggle by itself, report back on how it goes. See if you get any unwanted side affects from just one.
Party Safe.
Pillreports.com - Mod
I used to sell both Diablo and Giggle in my herbal highs business and I can honestly say, follow ALL instructions on the label (ie take on an empty stomach, DO NOT MIX WITH ALCOHOL and follow dosage by weight requirements) then you will have an awesome high with no nasty side effects.
Diablos are speedy but Giggle are something else entirely. Almost MDMAish but also almost like mixed with a downer (say an opiate too), sex on Giggle is amazing and I slept like a baby after it kicked out.
Diablos on their own are ok but I got a nasty headache from one dose (2 pills) and had to lay down once.
One plus with these pills and any others in the same brand are you can sleep and eat easily on them.
psy_fairee
Greenlighter
I have an email from my supplier at the company, confirmed DMAA