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'Legal Highs' + RC scene and availability in the U.S.?

That doesn't even make sense to me. They're equally available anywhere. There are no cities where certain drugs are more available than others, in the US, generally. RC or illegal.

Nobody has any idea which cities in the US have more or less cocaine, so why would you expect to be able to determine that about something that's hardly on the radar of any research?
 
That doesn't even make sense to me. They're equally available anywhere. There are no cities where certain drugs are more available than others, in the US, generally. RC or illegal.
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They aren't equally available. We are starting to see people import larger quantities of stuff like mephedrone and then selling it on the streets therefore increasing the availability in that area. Now people who don't have the internet, an address or some internet based currency transfer service can buy 4-mmc.

Do you think K-2 is just as available in Kansas than any other state? Do you think Salvia is just as easy to get in the states where it's illegal versus buying it in a headshop in the states where it has not been banned?
 
I guess Damien is sort of along the lines of what I guess I was trying to say. I know, for example, that certain places in Virginia, where RC's are very easy to get (the Fairfax, Virginia area for a while, a few years ago, 2C-I was extremely cheap among high schoolers, and popular).

From what I've heard, that's not the case anymore, but its now the college towns here in Virginia (Richmond, Charlottesville, Blacksburg) are overflowing with RCs, 2C-I, 2C-E and 5-MEO-MIPT has come around a lot lately too.

So I guess RCs are just like other drugs when it comes to cities and states, there is a variation.....if that's the sort of information you were talking about people giving, Damien.
 
Damien said:
They aren't equally available. We are starting to see people import larger quantities of stuff like mephedrone and then selling it on the streets therefore increasing the availability in that area. Now people who don't have the internet, an address or some internet based currency transfer service can buy 4-mmc.

Do you think K-2 is just as available in Kansas than any other state? Do you think Salvia is just as easy to get in the states where it's illegal versus buying it in a headshop in the states where it has not been banned?
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Yes, because I don't tend to frequent head shops in person often, I shop online. Most people don't buy salvia from headshops because they know it's a ripoff. I haven't met many vendors who care where they ship. They often have disclaimers saying it's your responsibility to determine the law.
 
Right, but the laws do vary from state to state, usually concerning salvia, but there are some others.

I know a lot of people who don't order from online headshops for various reasons...

Research Chemicals on the other hand, yes, you can buy them online, but, in my opinion, if you're in the United States and you're ordering RC's online, you've got some balls.
 
^ That's what I figured the OP wanted to discuss. With more people getting hip to the whole RC scene it's only natural that someone is going to see $$$ and start slangin stuff on the street.

I also see where Coolio is coming from though as well. Where is the harm reduction in a thread like this?

These threads can be useful when something happens like someone imports a kilo of 4-mmc into a city and is selling it as "molly". We can use this thread to spread the message that what the people in this city or town are buying is probably not molly.

On the flip side of the coin it's also very easy just to post something like "Oh ya we have lots of XXXX around here! It's crazy." This doesn't really contribute anything to our harm reduction message and at the same time it could create dangerous situations for the site, the poster or any dumbass that tries to source drugs from the net.
 
Coolio said:
Yes, because I don't tend to frequent head shops in person often, I shop online. Most people don't buy salvia from headshops because they know it's a ripoff. I haven't met many vendors who care where they ship. They often have disclaimers saying it's your responsibility to determine the law.
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So because you do it that way that's the way everyone does it? Have you even met most of the people that have tried salvia?
 
Good point. I know for a fact there was some powder "molly" floating around the Richmond, VA area that a few of my friends tried and it certainly wasn't MDMA, but was more like 2C-x RC's they had tried. This happened right around the same time there was a lot of 2C-E available around (called 2C-E and measured into doses and put into capsules and all that).

If that's just a coincidence or not, I don't know, but I would imagine the same sort of things occur (or have occured) in other places in the United States.

My apologies if I was out of line, Damien, I'm still getting used to this forum.
 
My apologies if I was out of line, Damien, I'm still getting used to this forum.
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Nah man, not at all. You're not a threat to my neighborhood. ;)

The mods have been discussing these types of threads recently though. We are trying to balance the HR message with a fun and interesting social aspect while trying to keep sourcing off of the site. It's a fine balance and doesn't always work out.

For now we're just taking it one thread at a time and if/when this thread loses the plot we'll shut it down.
 
Word up man, I don't think I'm a threat to anybody's neighborhood, but then again I ain't trying to be. Its just a certain song by a certain protopunk artist from the 70s, the lyrics really seemed to explain what I was going through when I was both going through kicking my percocet habit and registering for this forum, go figure.

Guess the name sticks, though :)
 
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coolio no offense but i think you're the only one who technically named dropped a 'source' (BBB). not tryin to be a rabblerouser, just sayin'...

also i think between threads on this fourm plus 'off-internet' common sense, one would be able to get a pretty good idea of which drugs are more or less available in specific cities. yes, impossible to quantify, but i would definitely bet money on Cocaine being more readily available in Miami compared to somewhere like Iowa City
 
lol good point

everything i thought of just came down to certain cities having more people than others. bigger population doesn't technically equal more cocaine, although it definitely helps the odds
 
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Good point. I know for a fact there was some powder "molly" floating around the Richmond, VA area that a few of my friends tried and it certainly wasn't MDMA, but was more like 2C-x RC's they had tried. This happened right around the same time there was a lot of 2C-E available around (called 2C-E and measured into doses and put into capsules and all that).

If that's just a coincidence or not, I don't know, but I would imagine the same sort of things occur (or have occured) in other places in the United States.

My apologies if I was out of line, Damien, I'm still getting used to this forum.
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I used to go to u of r and that shit was all over the place. It was definitely not a 2c but it also wasn't molly. If it was it was cut to shit.

Aside from my own collection, I only saw the 2cs a handful of times. Some kid tried to sell me a capsule of mescaline which was clearly a 2C. lol

Richmond is full of k, shitty expensive coke, lots of white on white l, and a nice variety of chron. Nitrous of course. RCs are pretty unknown (from my experience at least).
 
nudej, I couldn't have said it better myself, at least about the Richmond having shitty coke, its everywhere around here, and expensive for what it is...but I digress...

There were a lot of 2C's floating around the VCU communities (VCU has multiple drug communities, anybody from Richmond can back me up on this) along with the usual white on white acid. 5-MEO-MIPT and 5-MEO-DIPT showed up a few months ago, but promptly disappeared, along with any signs of 2C's or other designer drugs in general.

However, like you said, weed is fcuking everywhere in this town, wish the coke was of high(er) quality, though.
 
I like Coolio from what I have seen, but this thread is definitely not sourcing....sourcing is telling people exactly where to go get something...it isnt just talking about what is commonly available in an area or whats dry....saying that coke is shitty and cut in Ausralia isnt sourcing anymore than saying marijuana can be found in Amsterdam....just my opinion.


But yes, I am curious about what substances people are currently getting away with marketing, either purely as an RC, or as a clever dual use item that has a legitimate secondary purpose.

Are there any bath salts of any kind whatsoever at all being marketed inside the US? You would think there would at least be something herbal....something that isnt an analog but still active and actually worth while?
 
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