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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards

Legal High?

bruced5 said:
haha, TY ^^
That post really got at me..

But seriously, Im gunna have to bump my previous question, about mescaline and ether. Common knowledge can tell me that you would need to purchase the mescaline as a cactus that you didn't intend to munch on to produce the effects, and the same goes for the ether; I did some research and found lab grade stuff is ideal, but what about this starter fluid ether, is that like complete nonsense or..What I'm trying to say is, should I even be bothered trying to extract it from the starter fluid?
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I would just buy lab-grade.
 
....But, would I be able to just buy lab grade? Don't you have to be in some way afiliated with a lab?
 
Obyron, I didn't mean lab-grade mescaline, if that's how it came out haha :D
bruced5 said:
....But, would I be able to just buy lab grade? Don't you have to be in some way afiliated with a lab?
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Lab-grade diethyl ether instead of starter fluid; I highly doubt you wouldn't be able to get it.
 
Hahaha, yeah, I understood that part...
Although lab grade mescaline would probably be pretty good..
Yeah, though, lab grgade ether as opposed to using starter fluid..
Well, has anyone used starter fluid for their ether source?
I know about the extraction, just add water and syphon the top layer off..
But is it even worth the bother?
Plus, I read something somewhere about not smoking afterwards because its highly flammable and settles in your lungs... so how long would I have to wait to smoke? I know i'm being really cautious, but I just dont fancy blowing up..
 
Why use ether to extract mescaline when there are like 5 solvents I can think of just off the top of my head that are probably easier to get? Naptha, hexane, toluene, xylene... Well, four. ;)

EDIT: And if you can't figure that out, you don't need to be trying to extract mescaline. You're just going to blow up your parents' garage, and give the authorities a reason to crack down on san pedro and peruvian torch.
 
Obyron said:
Why use ether to extract mescaline when there are like 5 solvents I can think of just off the top of my head that are probably easier to get? Naptha, hexane, toluene, xylene... Well, four. ;)

EDIT: And if you can't figure that out, you don't need to be trying to extract mescaline. You're just going to blow up your parents' garage, and give the authorities a reason to crack down on san pedro and peruvian torch.
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very true.
 
I would also add, if your a little bit creative and can write a good, serious sounding email, you can obtain the various -flurane type inhalation anestetics for "research use" or for "non flammable solvent for a lab" ect.

they are mixed disassocative/depressant and quite fun.
 
as a quick rule of thumb i would say to avoid the chemical legal highs that come in pill form in packets (trip-eez, party pills, etc) but the herbal things are mostly good, with the exception of salvia as it is not pleasabnt

i reccomend BLUE LOTUS as a legal ecstasy alternative. it is slightly more relaxed and chilled out than mdma, [because it is a sedative] but more hypnotic and trippy. definately gives you a euphoric, dreamy high. very talkative and relaxed, and even loved up! Leave it soaking in red wine for a few days before ingesting. it can also be smoked but this is much milder than eating/drinking it
 
I wouldnt call Blue Lotus an ecstasy alternative. Its effects are no where close to MDMA. Yes, you feel relaxed and gives you a nice head space, but nothing like the loved up overload of awesome like you get with rolling.

You can research a lot of whats in most legal highs on Erowid. You can also just google the names of certain party pills and see what people have been saying about them.
 
I get pretty high on ladders and roofs, man is that stuff legal and fun!
 
Swerz said:
I wouldnt call Blue Lotus an ecstasy alternative. Its effects are no where close to MDMA. Yes, you feel relaxed and gives you a nice head space, but nothing like the loved up overload of awesome like you get with rolling.

I agree that it is not very much like the real E hit, there is no real rush or buzz in a stimulant way. But it felf more like the euphoria you get with that than anything else. Possibly similar to valium, but its hard to compare as it feels very natural.


Blue lotus won't replace the wide-awake stimulant, danceable effect of e but it will give you a similar<3:);):| lovey-dovey *i don't care about anything* feeling
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bluel lotus? wow how much of that stuff do you have to smoke to discern effects per the average non tolerant individual?
 
You cannot extract ether from starting fluid with water! I can't type that loudly enough. Starting fluid has uber loads of nasty hexanes/other volatile organic solvents (besides the ether)

To get clean ether from starting fluid you would have to distill it, and let me tell you distillations do not get more dangerous. Ether is (for laypeople) unimaginably combustible!. The odds of not destroying your home/lab if you don't know exactly what you're doing and have all the right equipment are very slim.

I'm not even going to start on inhaling those other nsaty chemicals in starting fluid. Might as well be huffing gasoline with breaths of computer duster in between to clear your head.

Mescaline, poppy pods, and other wild alkaloid bearing plants are legal-ish. Unless you leave evidence of your having committed the act(edit:specifically of processing/consuming them; possessing and ordering them is legal) you're pretty safe. They're a much MUCH better experience than a lot of the marketed "legal highs" stuff, too.

Please don't fuck with the starter fluid. Ether as a liquid and it's vapors especially are so volatile that nobody should play with it unless they're a chemist/chemistry student.
 
bluel lotus? wow how much of that stuff do you have to smoke to discern effects per the average non tolerant individual?
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well, we did 12.5g of the dried light blue/yellow flowers between 2 of us and it was about right. i'd say at least 6/7g each. Put in red wine in the fridge for as long as possible, strain and drink. then eat the mush of leaves seperately. we had to smash the bottle to get the remaining leaves out, unfortunately the bottled shattered and we didnt want to risk eating bits of broken glass, so we dried it on a plate in the sun for a few hours. the result? a very nce smoking mix that had a hint of wine. this is nice when you've already ingested some, but doesn't do much when just smoked and nothing else, except maybe make you sleepy

YEp, smoking weed with it is all good. absolutely no clash. later on we even mixed with some ketamine as it was wearing off. again, fine. so i'd say it could pretty much be mixed with anything u want, though is good enough on its own

Blue Lotus is my faveourite legal high ;)

some say the alcohol brings out the sedative effect more, which is why wine is the best technique.

http://de1.erowid.org/plants/bluelotus/bluelotus.html
 
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