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syktruth

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Hello all! I recently found an interest in learning how to astral project after being told it was harmless. By the second day of trying i was
able to life my head out of my body and look around my room. I felt incredibly strong vibrations over myself, lost sense of body and
awareness and felt myself pushing out of my body. The world looked very
vibrant with a slight color difference and it was only a few seconds before i had to know if this was real or not and opened my physical
eyes.

Now that i found I am able to do this I have been practicing as often as I can. Today I meditated outside of a grocery store while waiting for a friend and slipped into the vibrational state and almost left my body but felt these immense amount of energies and some i believe
negative gave me a weird feeling after i came to. Not sure if it was a positive experience or not.

My question is if any one of you have real experienced with controlling leaving your body if outcomes were good / bad. And also do Buddhist's or any other highly spiritual people consider leaving the body a good thing or can it be bad?

Thanks for info if anyone has!
 
I haven't left my body in a while, but I'm gradually expanding my consciousness outward..
Is that like a form of astral projection?
And how do I leave my body, too??
 
It is highly unlikely that you can just slip into OBE's on command, for example outside the shops. From what I know it (usually) takes decades of meditation to enter such deep things as OBE (excluding drugs)
Meditation isn't only linked to Buddhism, there are many other methods of meditation than the 3 "Buddhist" meditations, and it is in Buddhist nature that you try other types of meditation.
Oh, and I may be thinking of a different OBE, but I've felt as though I was nothing, so to speak. There was no me. I was just in this emptiness, but it was so immense. There was no more separation. There was no more "I"
This was drug induced.
 
if you're controlling your OBE experiences after two days of "meditation," you might be a fully-realized Buddha already...
 
I have been meditating for about 2 years off and on but never got very far with it, I read on how to astral project and i felt the vibrations my first attempt. Second attempt my head left my body and i could look around my room and see my body. My eyes were closed i was laying down perfectly still but i could see my entire room it was more real than anything i've ever seen.

I am a big lucid dreamer maybe it enables me to do it easier. But after 2 days of deep meditation im able to nearly leave my body after 5 minutes of meditating outside of a grocery store, maybe there is something stronger at work here because i dont think that is normal.

But if anyone who has a lot of information on buddhism could tell me if this is a good thing astral projection or if it has risks that would be awesome! Or if i do have this skill to get into deep parts of my consiousness and expand my soul at will and leave my body is there something more I can do with this?

Thanks for responses happy living!
 
Buddhism is a highly plastic thought-form, unless you adhere to dogma (which is kinda counter-nature I think ha).
 
I believe that its possible to meditate while doing drugs that simulate dissociation, then when you meditate sober, you will have a mental and visual conditioned response of experiencing an out of body experience.
 
^ ya what he said. i believe if u take a strong dose of your fav dissociative and you get an outa body experience, it's like you unlock a "circuit"(as leary would term it) in your brain which then allows you to do this again more easily. the more often you do this the more neurons that will get recruited to that neuronal pattern or "circuit".

i remember the last time... i came out of my body slightly and then i "projected" my idea of a generic "god" and he grabbed me and lifted me completely out of my body... up, up, up, through the roof of my house, into heaven. it wasnt long before i was disturbed by my friend and brought back to reality. i was indeed on drugs. i dont believe its bad, unless your in this scary movie i watched recently where a kid left his body and got stuck in an evil spirit realm. i think it was called "insidious" lol.
 
stonerfromohio said:
lol you all are crazy sometimes
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ehehe I wouldnt fallow much besides what you question and know to be your own consciousness, its your environment you are in so explore that way.

There is a lot to learn about every thing you are seeing, colors and shapes etc. Study and build your Mekraba. Practice grounding and build up that purity with in yourself to know what to feel for...
 
syktruth said:
Hello all! I recently found an interest in learning how to astral project after being told it was harmless. By the second day of trying i was
able to life my head out of my body and look around my room. I felt incredibly strong vibrations over myself, lost sense of body and
awareness and felt myself pushing out of my body. The world looked very
vibrant with a slight color difference and it was only a few seconds before i had to know if this was real or not and opened my physical
eyes.

Now that i found I am able to do this I have been practicing as often as I can. Today I meditated outside of a grocery store while waiting for a friend and slipped into the vibrational state and almost left my body but felt these immense amount of energies and some i believe
negative gave me a weird feeling after i came to. Not sure if it was a positive experience or not.

My question is if any one of you have real experienced with controlling leaving your body if outcomes were good / bad. And also do Buddhist's or any other highly spiritual people consider leaving the body a good thing or can it be bad?

Thanks for info if anyone has!
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Hello syktruth,

I am translating into Spanish two books at once: Pathways Through to Space, by Franklin Merrell-Wolff, and My Big TOE, by Thomas Campbell. As you are an English speaker, I strongly recommend both books, originally English-written. Little to none doubt on that to which you refer will remain after. Particularly, the vibrations-issue is described by Tom Campbell as the very moment in which the change of mode of consciousness (he says from PMR -Physical Matter Reality- to NPMR -Nonphysical Matter Reality-) takes place. He says also that for him this is not a pleasant experience, and that it is rather unusual for someone to experience it. In any case, from my own experience, certainly limited but significant to me, I may say that such vibrations are perceived (physically) when the mind tries too hard -to control, to know, to make judgements about, to pay attention to things other than remaining within a relax-state and leave things naturally occur. Once the change of mode of consciousness is ended, vibrations disapperar, and it is possible they return when one 'reintegrates' to his physical body. It is to be noted that, as far as I know, no harm is to be expected. Quite on the contrary, the fact of being able to retain personal consciousness (to remain self-conscious ) during the process would be a great advantage. Here Merrell-Wolff is an outstanding master, with an enormous knowledge about Buddhism, Vedantism, and Eastern philosophies in general.
As said, I am but a beginner (in practice), with a relative large theoretical knowledge, so my assertions are to be taken bearing this in mind. Surely you may find others much more authorised than I in the forum of Campbell's website: www.mybigtoe.com, wherein Mr. Campbell himself takes part if needed. I recommend this books insofar as they provide outstanding information on the best way to take profit of this 'out-of-body' experiences and related mind-states (consciousness-states). In fact, their attainment goes far beyond than a mere 'tourist walk' within the non-physical, as mostly do. Much marvels are to be found that even imagination cannot reach. For sure.

Good luck.

PS. I found this forum looking for the very meaning of "leaving of the body" in the following excerpt (Pathways): "For a moment I lost orientation with the body. I cannot describe the feeling quite correctly for I know of no other experiences that are analogous. But it seemed to me to be an incipient leaving of the body. I gripped myself and the physical organism intensely with the will and walked slowly up a side street..."

Also, perhaps you could be so kind as to tell me whether "I lost orientation with the body" means "with respect to the body (as if one no longer knew where is his own body " or "the body lost its orientation (as if one were close to fall)". Thank you.
 
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OP, your experience sounds more like remote viewing than AP. If it's something that happens automatically as opposed to you specifically willing it to happen, then that could indicate not enough grounding. But maybe not.
 
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