I used about 30-40g very high quality Kratom per day over the last month´s, I take Kratom since 2013 at first only amounts of about 10-15g per day which slowly increased over 15-25 up to 30-40g.
Over the last half year I also took about 1g U47700 every 1-2 month´s, usually just about 10-20mg per day. If I went out of it but had enough Kratom I even felt somehow better psychologically, I just didn´t have that heavy body feeling but with enough Kratom it was no problem.
I also take Phenibut since 2013, starting at about 1-2g per day which increased to 3-4g over the last years.
Now I went out of Kratom this week for the first time since I used the 30-40g doses, when I "only" took 20-30g I could quite easily replace it with U47700 for 2-3 days if I didn´t had enough money in the last days of the month or if the order came too late. But now even a combination of U4, Tramadol, Phenibut and Pyrazolam somehow doesn´t cut the withdrawal from the Kratom, for example today when I woke up I drank at first 2 cups of light coffee (I´m a very heavy coffee drinker too, usually 3-4 cups when waking up and then every half to one hour another cup over the day and also into the evening), 1g Phenibut, 50mg Tramadol and about 5mg U4 in each cup of coffee. I didn´t felt too bad but it just doesn´t stop the "hot"/fever like body feeling of the Kratom wd which is my biggest problem, I don´t have any flu like symptoms or something else, just that annoying hot feeling which stops me from doing anything at all besides sitting in front of my computer.
Now I have taken all in all since 9:30 25mg U47700, 1,8g Phenibut, 100mg Tramadol XR and 0,5mg Pyrazolam. I feel ok but have still that annoying heat feeling. The only time it really stopped was yesterday when I had about 60-75mg U4, 4,5g Phenibut, 400mg Tramadol and about 2-4mg Pyrazolam over the day, but the "heat" only stopped in the evening when I took 30mg of the total amount of U4 I used that day in a short time along with 150mg Tramadol and 1mg Pyrazolam.
Has anyone else experienced those hot/fever like wd symptoms from Kratom? Why doesn´t an opioid as strong as U4 along with all the other stuff stop the withdrawal completely? 1 year ago I could easily switch from my 20-30g Kratom per day to 300-400mg Tramadol without any problems. Tramadol sometimes also induces a bit of an uncomfortable feeling in the first hours before the metabolites kick in, could it be that this potentiates the hot feeling? But when I drank the first cup of coffee with 5mg U4 in the morning a also had almost the same fever symptoms.
Over the last half year I also took about 1g U47700 every 1-2 month´s, usually just about 10-20mg per day. If I went out of it but had enough Kratom I even felt somehow better psychologically, I just didn´t have that heavy body feeling but with enough Kratom it was no problem.
I also take Phenibut since 2013, starting at about 1-2g per day which increased to 3-4g over the last years.
Now I went out of Kratom this week for the first time since I used the 30-40g doses, when I "only" took 20-30g I could quite easily replace it with U47700 for 2-3 days if I didn´t had enough money in the last days of the month or if the order came too late. But now even a combination of U4, Tramadol, Phenibut and Pyrazolam somehow doesn´t cut the withdrawal from the Kratom, for example today when I woke up I drank at first 2 cups of light coffee (I´m a very heavy coffee drinker too, usually 3-4 cups when waking up and then every half to one hour another cup over the day and also into the evening), 1g Phenibut, 50mg Tramadol and about 5mg U4 in each cup of coffee. I didn´t felt too bad but it just doesn´t stop the "hot"/fever like body feeling of the Kratom wd which is my biggest problem, I don´t have any flu like symptoms or something else, just that annoying hot feeling which stops me from doing anything at all besides sitting in front of my computer.
Now I have taken all in all since 9:30 25mg U47700, 1,8g Phenibut, 100mg Tramadol XR and 0,5mg Pyrazolam. I feel ok but have still that annoying heat feeling. The only time it really stopped was yesterday when I had about 60-75mg U4, 4,5g Phenibut, 400mg Tramadol and about 2-4mg Pyrazolam over the day, but the "heat" only stopped in the evening when I took 30mg of the total amount of U4 I used that day in a short time along with 150mg Tramadol and 1mg Pyrazolam.
Has anyone else experienced those hot/fever like wd symptoms from Kratom? Why doesn´t an opioid as strong as U4 along with all the other stuff stop the withdrawal completely? 1 year ago I could easily switch from my 20-30g Kratom per day to 300-400mg Tramadol without any problems. Tramadol sometimes also induces a bit of an uncomfortable feeling in the first hours before the metabolites kick in, could it be that this potentiates the hot feeling? But when I drank the first cup of coffee with 5mg U4 in the morning a also had almost the same fever symptoms.
