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Kratom-what is the right way to use ?

tyler5

tyler5

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hello there,

i have been reading about this and have been getting various answers/viewpoints.
which method is the 'correct' one?
i have kratom leaf (dried), leaf in pure powder form, and leaf extract 10x. all supposedly Bali.
question - is it necessary to make the tea or can i just plain eat all three of them (not all at once, obviously)?
 
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Ahahaha don't try to eat it bro its nasty. Make a tea like so:

Here's a good tea recipe that I have created based on others recipe and personal experience. You can always scale it back and just drink an individual dose if you don't have a freezer.

Kratom Tea. This is a recipe for 8 doses. Assuming you have average bali kratom.

Equipment:
Large Pot
Something to stir preferably a large metal whisk that you can leave in the pot

Ingredients:
50 grams of bali kratom (1\2 cup maybe?)
1.5 gallons of water (if you have a PUR filter or something use it)
1 cups of lemon juice

Stir kratom in lemon juice. Let sit 30 minutes. Add water and stir. Slowly bring to a vigorous boil. Boil it on HOT! Stir every 15-20 minutes and avoid letting the kratom powder stick to the sides. When your left with a couple quarts strain all powder out. Simmer down to a quart of liquid. Freeze solution. 4 ounces = 6.25 grams of kratom or one dose. 4 ounces is exactly half a cup. You must thaw the mixture COMPLETELY and shake for 20 seconds before pouring out your dose.

Add half a cup liquid extract to 1\4 cup of water. Add lots of gatorade powder and sugar. Let mixture get to room temp, stir 20 seconds, and drink with chaser. Its not too bad because you don't get powder stuck on your throat. In the freezer the kratom tea should last 3 weeks and maybe longer. Don't use this stuff more than 4 days in a row. Also don't try a high dose until you have experimented with the dose I recommended.
 
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Eat it. Easier and more effective ime. Just take a 2"X 4" piece of stiff paper, or light cardboard, bend it in the middle longways, place a tablespoon of powder on it, place it up to your mouth, pour it in your mouth BEHIND the taste buds, and then wash it down with your choice of beverage. Repeat as needed. Worked like a charm for me.
 
I've been through quite a bit of 15x extract-on-leaf and I've grown to really like the taste.. it's like bitter green or black tea to me. What I do is put about 3gm in a 12oz bottle of iced green tea, shake it up good and leave it in the fridge for a few hours. I then drink it slowly over the course of an hour or so. I like the effects, and like I said, I think the flavor is fine... I hear many talking about gagging it down... I just don't get that at all... but I'm a bigtime tea drinker anyway so maybe it's just me.

I tried some of the 20x 'special reserve' extract and was less than thrilled... the 15x works great for me.


Oh yeah, I've also mixed the extract into enough honey to make a spread and ate it on crackers.. worked great.
 
It is quicker and easier to put in in a mug and add a little water and mix it until it is a a paste. Add more water and drink it down or add juice or another strong tasting drink to help mask the taste. It is possible to drink it down in about 20 seconds. Hope this helps. :)
 
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Easiest and most effective and least disgusting for me is toss and wash method as long as your using powder.

Just put like half a teaspoon of kratom powder on the back of your tongue. Then carefully take a drink of water and swallow the kratom. Do this untill your up to the dose you want.

This method always works best for me by far. IMO you can lose alot of potency making tea, and I never really got a good high from it.
 
Never been able to get the method right for t & w. I guess that would be a good method if you get it right. %)
 
Faded .45 said:
This method always works best for me by far. IMO you can lose alot of potency making tea, and I never really got a good high from it.
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The advantage to the tea is it hits yours system really fast. Your body doesn't have to break down and digest a tea the same way it would digest powder. You can definitely get a good high off it. Have you tried using lots of lemon juice and water?
 
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Its just more time consuming to make tea but it definitely is effective. I always add lemon juice BTW.
 
yeah, i have used lemon. In all honesty, tea does work, but I really like eating it better. One method I sometimes do is make tea and drink it with the powder, and if you can handle drinking that then your home free. All the potency and it hits you fast. Really hard to drink though.
Tea definately hits you faster, but in my experiences the buzz fades very quickly and I feel like I don't get the whole spectrum of kratom alkaloids, which I probably don't when making tea and straining it. Anybody know for sure on this subject?


Anyway, it seems strange to me that you cant toss and wash grimmo. Is it the taste? I figure anyone that can handle the taste of the kratom tea should easily be able to toss and wash. Please let me know I bet I could help you out.

Also, microwaving kratom in a mug with some 80 proof vodka, letting it steep for a while, and then making tea out of that (the vodka-kratom concoction) seems to make a WAY better experience IMO .Worth a try sometime.

Toss and Wash is still my favorite though
 
I used the paste method and add bit of water and drink it down. Quick and easy but all that powder dissolved isn't nice. I just can't do the T&W never got the hang of it.
 
thank You guys so much for all the answers.

i did 5 grams of 15x kratom extract and basically felt nothing.
id say its even weaker than 160mg of codeine.
at least with codeine i can feel something, with the kratom it was all placebo i think.
so was it just crappy kratom or is this stuff really that light?
 
Head shop stuff is almost always rubbish and not worth the money I'm afraid. The best I found was krypton but that may not even be kratom. There's a thread about it somewhere.
 
tyler5 said:
i did 5 grams of 15x kratom extract and basically felt nothing.
id say its even weaker than 160mg of codeine.
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I'm a regular user of codeine, and i've been looking into kratom. I find it interesting what you say about the strength, if a little dis-heartening. Lol. ...i'd be interested to know if you manage to get any success with kratom.
 
I always used to make a simple tea of it with lemon, but I would leave the powdered leaf in the cup.
Hits you much harder than this way, but it's a fucking nightmare to get down.

Big gulps are the best way to go!
 
The powdered leaf and extracts you can buy from reliable web sites are much better quality than you can get in a head shop. You just need to find one...
 
Eating powdered, whole, unrefined dried kratom leaf is the best way. Maeng da is the best variety.
 
i didnt buy the kratom 15x borneo extract from a head shop per se, it was a local web site selling kratom, party pills, poppers etc.
its been getting quite good reviews except the kratom since most people in my country avoid opiates/anything similar like the plague :P its ridiculous.
but still, there have been people whove tried and theyve said its pretty good, and that has been about the cheaper kratoms they sell.
the one i bought was the second most expensive extract pack available, it was 5g's and 16EUR/20USD.

i get much much more from 160mgs or 240mgs of codeine cwe'd from 8/500 co-co tabs.
i mean i do use codeine every day for about 1.5 years now and did do 160mg about 4 hours before the 15x etract 5g tea but still i shouldve felt something but it was all placebo and even that was more-less nonexistent :D

so to hear from other daily codeine users (3-4 times 160mg-240mg per day) whove tried or use kratom would be very nice and interesting.

i await Your responses :)
 
tyler5 said:
i didnt buy the kratom 15x borneo extract from a head shop per se, it was a local web site selling kratom, party pills, poppers etc.
its been getting quite good reviews except the kratom since most people in my country avoid opiates/anything similar like the plague :P its ridiculous.
but still, there have been people whove tried and theyve said its pretty good, and that has been about the cheaper kratoms they sell.
the one i bought was the second most expensive extract pack available, it was 5g's and 16EUR/20USD.

i get much much more from 160mgs or 240mgs of codeine cwe'd from 8/500 co-co tabs.
i mean i do use codeine every day for about 1.5 years now and did do 160mg about 4 hours before the 15x etract 5g tea but still i shouldve felt something but it was all placebo and even that was more-less nonexistent :D

so to hear from other daily codeine users (3-4 times 160mg-240mg per day) whove tried or use kratom would be very nice and interesting.

i await Your responses :)
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Don't buy extracts get whole leaf from internet or you will pay out the ass!!! It's worth it bro. Read on erowid there are many good reports....
 
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