Kratom vs Tramadol?

[blueboxes1]

I have been reading up on kratom and have noticed people say that it has stimulating properties.. I would like to know if it feels more like tramadol or the more conventional opioids like oxycodone? I personally find oxy to be stimulating mentally but in a nice euphoric way as where tramadol I do not find much recreational value in.. It isn't too speedy it just doesn't feel that great to me.. too many side effects. Does kratom effect serotonin as well?

I havent seen any threads any where comparing kratom to both tramadol and oxycodone so I was hoping I could get some opinions on the matter. What do you guys compare it to?

 

[nAON]

bdd -> OD

 

[blueboxes1]

Thanks I wasn't quite sure where to put this.. Hopefully now I can get some insight

 

[blueboxes1]

Anyone? I am especially curious as to if it is stimulating like oxycodone or if it is stimulating like amphetamines.. If anyone has any input I would greatly appreciate it.

 

[LSDiesel]

Kratom is stimulating like oxy or hydro and in my opinion feels much better than tramadol. I have to ask you where you got your username. Are you into phone phreaking?

 

[blueboxes1]

Im not sure what that is lol but for my username its just what one of my buddies refers to P. cubensis and I thought it was funny so I addopted it as my username. Thank you for the info on the kratom btw that is what I was hoping to hear.

 

[LSDiesel]

I should also tell you that Kratom is kindof like a speedball. It is usually stimulating during the first hour, and then afterwords, it becomes more sedating. This is from my personal experience. Also, there are many different KINDS of kratom and different strains, some of which are more speedy and stimulating while others are usually more sedating.

From Personal Experience

BALI kratom = first hour or 45 min, feels like hydrocodone/oxycodone, then feels like a very small dose of morphine/heroin.
MAENG DA (or any thai strain) kratom = feels stimulating like oxycodone/buprenorphine with a smidgen of extremely clean cocaine or MDMA
SUPER SUNDA = very similar to BALI, with very little stimulatory effects in the beginning
Ultra Enhanced Indo = feels like a strong oxycodone dose, with a nod, at even larger doses (+3 grams), feels like a morphine-derived opiate (ie heroin)

There are many more strains out there

The only two I have found to be worth it in my book is BALI, and Ultra Enhanced Indo, however I tend to like morphine derived opiates better than thebaine derived opiates. And in general, thebaine derived opiates are more stimulating than morphine derived opiates.