Kratom Trying to kick the hobbit-loperamide

[Builtone]

Just a fast run down because I know everyone here thinks that Kratom WD is a walk in the park. I have used for maybe 5 years, bali 95% of the time, crushed leaf. The last two years I've been using ED at around 40g. I have never been addicted to opiates before so I had really no idea what to expect as far as WDs. Well now I have a pretty clear idea! haha

I think what drives me the craziest are the chills and insane sweating. The lack of motivation really blows also not to mention the tearing eyes, yawning, and restlessness. I started to taper yesterday and the symptoms start to show maybe 5 hours post 5 gram dose. I measure with a teaspoon and grind my own so not sure how much I actually use. One level teaspoon.

I just started using the lope today and I have taken about 9 2mg pills spread out and it seems like it stopped the sweating and chills so that's a big plus. But it really doesn't seem to last very long with 2 pills per dose? I thought they lasted all day or some shite.

What I want to know is how much can I take ED and still be able to shit and how should I work it in with my taper? Should I just be using the lope?

Thank you in advance. I tried to read as much on this board as possible before doing this and I know this might sound redundant. Sorry.

 

[bpayne]

I've withdrawn from Only kratom a handful of times and I've withdrawn from harder opiates as well, such as suboxone, and oxycodone, I've also withdrawn from Tramadol Countless times.. and Yeah the Kratom withdrawal is basically the same as the others just Much Much less intense, However the insomnia and Restless Leg Syndrome is Exactly the Same.. whether it's Oxycodone, Tramadol, or Kratom.. you will have restless legs that you feel you need to stretch every 5 seconds.. The Loperamide will help with this.

 

[Builtone]

Now on my second day and I think it took a while for the lope to kick on or something. This morning I dosed 5grams or one level teaspoon of bali and took 2 loperamide. This stuff is really strange. I swear last night I felt really good and today too. I wish I would have known about this before because I think it makes the bali much more powerful. It takes me back to the original feeling. Just good. Not really sure what is causing this.

I am almost tempted to dose some more bali because how it made me feel last night. I've been going two years strong now and really need to nail this down and stop ED use so I can enjoy this awesome plant again.

bpayne-How much lope can I take in a day and how did you dose? How many days on? Did you just taper off the Kratom then taper off the lope?

Thanks.

 

[Oxide]

You should be fine "supplementing" with the loperamide for the time being while you reduce your Kratom dosage.

You'll get much better results with loperamide if you take the dosage all at once. Instead of taking 4mg per dosage spread out, take 8mg at once and avoid re-dosing. The constipation is a little longer-lasting but not much worse than I've come to expect from opiates in general. The stomach 'cramping' it causes is a much more unpleasant side effect IMO.

As far as how much you can take...you can take as much as you need...but I personally have never actually needed more than 16mg to feel better. Usually I take 8mg when the going gets tough, though.

 

[Builtone]

Ok cool. I kinda figured I should take it all at once but wasn't sure how I would react. Thank you for the much appreciated info.