Opioids Kratom to stop sub bupe, will i be fine when i’ll stop the kratom ?

[Mista444]

Hey there, it’s been a long process this summer for me, since 2 days i’ve taken my last 0,2mg of sub. I replaced it with kratom and it’s really taking away the WD.
But the question is will i not be at the same point when i’ll stop kratom ?
Isn’t it just like replacing sub by heroin or methadon ?
I’m thinking taking kratom for 3weeks and stop it.

 

[daturetard]

Yeah kratom is not anywhere near as physically debilitating to be addicted to as full agonists, nor even subs.
The true nastiness of kratom addiction comes from puking it back up and the mentality of 'well, I can take a day off and not wd so I must be completely fine and normal/not mentally dependent.'
It becomes a crutch that at a certain point just makes it harder to walk without it. So yeah, of course you'd rather have it. I would not at all say it's like switching subs for h or mdone. Even subs are linked to cancers in the mouth and stomach. I'd say you're best off on the kratom of all things.
Try loperamide maybe, as itll help with wd a lot, but is not psychoactive.

 

[Mista444]

Thx for your anwser, it’s 4 am in France i just woke up with big stomach ache. I’m taking 3 time à day 2,5g since 3 days the thing is it doesnt help much for sleep actually and its been 3 days no sleeping :/ so i thought i’d rather take it at 5 pm *(what i did yesterday) but shit big stomach ache and i always wake up with WD.
May be should i try tea for stomach ?
is there any way to make it last longer ?
I also take valium before sleep, and i’ve tercian and tramadol but i dont take them yet.
I’ll try to take tramadol for night time and keep Kratom for day maybe