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Kratom + San Pedro Combo

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Phils Goodman

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I've been a daily user of Kratom for about 2 months know, using maybe 10 grams per day. I haven't tripped in a long time so I bought 12" of San Pedro.
Kratom contains monoamines and MAOI alkaloids, as does San Pedro. I wanted to ask if you thought this combo would be risky.. Otherwise I'm going to have to go through w/ds before I'm able to trip.

Xorkoth has a report on Erowid where he combined Peruvian Torch and Kratom, with no ill effects. But I want to make sure.


Thank you!
 
I don't think they would be significant to make a difference but i'd wait for someone more knowledgeable about that to answer. My main concern would be the nausea. I'm sure it'd work out fine but you'll probably throw up.
 
I have been using Kratom daily for several years and the times I've tried San Pedro have been no different.
 
While I am cautious and have not attempted any harmala alkaloids due to a daily kratom routine, a torch excursion was no problem. No problem at all. That's with even starting, middle and end kratom utilization. :D
That doesn't mean it's safe but I believe it is and would do that again. Again, true maois I would not chance the mixture. But cactus seems fine.

And really, from some of the combos I read on here seem way more dangerous than cactus and kratom. Some of the mixed RC reports I see..... wow. 8(
 
Need some help here

I last used kratom 5 days ago

2 hours ago my fingers were exposed to san pedro resin, from an isopropyl extraction.

After 30 minutes my eyes were dilated and I felt altered and hot.

Its now 2 hours since exposure and it's gotten worse. My temp is 100.4 and rising I feel very very hot and flushed.
I have alot of excess energy and can't sit still. My BP feels high and my HR is just a little high. Slight visuals and phenethylamine body load present.

Yesterday I had a similar but worse reaction to ephedra sinicia, 1/4tsp powdered in a cup of tea. 4 sips and 20 minutes later I was freaking the fuck out and freaked out all day because my BP was extremely high and I had a fever.

San Pedro has alkaloids like tyramine, and 3-meo-tyramine and a number of phens. I cannot see how I absorbed so much from the little I got on my fingers, but it is worrying me quite a bit.


P.S. I've been smoking weed all day and felt good before I touched this shit
 
Mr Phil, I am no doctor, but this doesn't make sense. I do know for me I can't touch ephedra at all. That alone makes me nervous and uncomfortable.

My guess is this has nothing to do with kratom nor cactus resin. It makes no sense. 100 degree fever isn't exactly a high fever. I have measured that on days I was fine.

Kratom is not a MAIO btw. And 5 days it would be out of your system. And for all the people that gulp large amounts of cactus for a mild trip I somehow doubt anything got absorbed in your skin.

My guess is something else is going on. Maybe a flu? I would like to see other responses. None of this makes sense, so I would just chill, maybe have some chamomile tea, and monitor your symptoms. You say you had this yesterday too. Hopefully it goes away or go to a doctor.
 
yeah the nausea would be my biggest concern. Does the kratom provide a strong enough synergy to warrant the potential for a nausea fest; of so would are the benefits? I know krafom contains many active substances.
 
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