Kratom Resin

[mylove2u21]

Hello Everyone

I was thinking about getting some Kratom Resin. I tried the powder stuff and really couldn't get it down. When I did get quite a bit down I ended up puking it up. So I was thinking about the resin and was wondering if anyone had experienced it and what dose you used?
Was wondering if kratom resin would at all be like heroin to someone that hasn't ever had heroin?
Thanks and have a great day, Sean

 

[phalaris]

HI.

I just tried Kratom for the first time yesterday. I got 28 grams of powdered Maeng Da leaf from a reputable source that many people here know of. I started off with 2.2 grams weighed and waited an hour and didn't feel much than a slihgt mellow feeling. I ended up taking some coca tea and steeping about a couple grams and waited and took more and more by just dumping it in my mouth and swigging with water... after about 3 hours I started feeling REALLY good.. I estimated I ate about 10 grams before I started feeling it. I redosed a few times and much more later last night and played Fallout 3 with a wonderful grace and fascination for video games. heh.. not that I could also have worked on something more creative but it was fun to pass the time while on a near nod of this stufff.. I think it's excellent. I ate about 2/3 the bag last night and was really mellow and near sleep but stimulated enough to stay up until 5am.. then I took melatonin and passed right out... I took the remainder 1/3 of the oz today by just gulping it with tea and water. It felt awesome.
To answer your question, I have no tried resin. From opinion over what I've read, any extract is missing many of the other dozen or so psychoactive alkaloids that are present in raw leaf. I hear if you get your hands on fresh leaf and make a quid out of if you get a full effect with no oxidation/degradation due to processing the leaves into a powder.. but getting any premium grade leaf and tossing it back with some water will do the trick.. from my experience. From what I've read the extract can get out off and a lot of people like mytragine, which is the most available alkaloid by quantity from extract. The next thing to look for as far as alkaloids is 7-hydroxy-mitragynine. This one apparently has more of the desired mellow and energetic effect and has only been slightly tested.. do a search for kratom on these boards.
Also I've noticed a patter that when people ingest extract or extraction enhanced leaf they throw up.. I think this is due to the sudden rush of a mu-opioid agonist, which seems to happen to many people who try heroin for the first time or are very lightweight to opiates. I've never tried heroin so I don't know and I'm not a huge fan of opiates. The only ones I've tried are hydrochodone from vicodin and codeine from cough medicine I was given as a kid. They feel great but I am super sensitive to the opiate withdrawal th first day after. I felt no withdrawal effects from kratom yet.
Also people claim that, comparatively, kratom does not have as much of a pain reduction quality as opiates have. It just exhibits the mental floating feeling that many people crave.. I did notice some itchy feelings bu they weren't as intense as I get on hydrochodone. This is also another reason why I don't like opiates.. But kratom leaf seems so much friendlier and mellower than pharm opiates.
My suggestion, even though it's not the answer you were looking for, is to get yourself some Maeng Da powerder and eat it straight with water or a juice... it doesn't taste bad at all... It's not bitter and doesn't leave a lingering tase of herbs in your mouth like I"ve seen some claims. Start low or take about 5 grams... You shouldn't have any problems with naussea/vomitting if you take it slow at first. Oh, also after my first 10something grams ingested I ate some dinner and eating REALLY kicks in the groovy feelings.. makes having a happy dinner with someone even more enjoyable and social. Just a thought if you want to try it on a date with someone.. heh.
I'm on a tight budget so I can only afford the economy leaf right now, but I wanted a larger quantity... I'm going to see how much stronger Maeng Da is compared to this Indo-red leaf... I'll keep you posted if you'd like, but I do suggest you get some powerder and ingest how I mentioned.
Have fun with this stuff no matter what because I truely believe it is a unique and wonderful organic high.

-phalaris

 

[mylove2u21]

I think I'll give the resin a try though this time.

Look at this picture. The resin looks beautiful.

I'll diffenently take it slow. This stuff looks strong and I don't want to die.
Sean

 

[theotherside]

Kratom resin is WAY overrated IMO. I had this 41% alkaloids resin and it did less to me then the regular leaf. Even though most people will tell you otherwise, I love the so called 15x kratom powder....even though we all know its actually like 5x. Put liquid in your mouth, dump 2 grams of 15x on top of the liquid in your mouth, and you will not taste a thing. Also, do not try to smoke the resin.......nasty and isn't as active IMO.

 

[mylove2u21]

So the whole resin thing is BS?

 

[phalaris]

Seriously, take like 10 mintues and do a search from the search engine above and just type in "kratom". You'll find about a dozen threads with many replies in each and most everyone mentions that extracts, especially resins are not worth the price and effort to ingest. I have some close friends who attest to this because they've tried the resin and don't like it. But if you've already bought it then go ahead and take it and update us on how it feels. There's nothing better than more input to help us make more concise decisions from this community. Otherwise do what theotherside says and get some multi-x enhanced leaf or a really high quality leaf. Powder. Your gut will extract all the goodies real easy with Powder. No need to make a tea. drink lots of water to help speed up absorption.

 

[mylove2u21]

Ok I'll try a good leaf powder. Thanks for the above reply phalaris

 

[jackdaw]

I've found that extracts only seem effective when taken in conjunction with some plain leaf.

Kratom has some twenty plus alkaloids, not all of them active, but they may play some part in it's effect. Extracts usually lack some or more of those alkaloids and taking the leaf provides you with them. But as has been said try plain leaf powder if you can stomach it and use the toss and wash method to ingest.

One hint though, hold your breathe while the powders in your mouth, cause if you breath with it in there you could inhale some of the powder and spew it up all over the place.

Oh yeah, it's not like Heroin. Much, much milder. Though it does have potential for addiction.

 

[ArtVandalay]

That resin is a bitch to use. You need a hammer to crack pieces off. Powder leaf is easier to use.

 

[Panacea]

Yeah, resin sucks.

 

[geomantric]

Any aussies know if Kratom is still legal down under? heard they were trying to ban if few years ago when i first tried it.

 

[haikod]

good thing this thread showed up i just plunged for some powder since im drunk and high anyway, getting off benzos is hell for sure. i hope the order comes soon because alcohol hardly takes off the edge.

 

[rachamim]

Listen, you cannot get accurate advice on how much of aresin to use because all that nonsense from the sellers about "10X" etc is absolute BS. They do not quantify the extracts and resins, they GUESS. Unless you have either whole leaf OR isolated and purified alkaloids from the leaves you will not be able to accurately dose and even with leaf it is almost impossible given the nature of the plant.

It is a guessing game. The safest thing to do is to do a tiny bit, and wait 20 minutes, and increase in tiny increments until you reach a satifying dosage.

It is illegal in Australia, Malaysia, Thailand, and Mynammar/Burma. It is death penalty in the SE Asian listed nations by the way.

 

[hopeless]

Supposedly Mark , a well known extract mfr, can do a proper assestment of aklaloid content and is able to differentiate the difference in alkaloids as well. I know 250X isn't really x250 of alkaloids. In my uneducated guess , I assume that they make resin with x amount of leaf material to denote the x so maybe 10x is just 10gm of leaf of resin to make it a "10x" product.

The original 15x is made in China so who really knows how they make it- could be rat shit for all we know.

back to topic- resin does suck and might as well make your own kratom tea with better effects.

 

[haikod]

i just got my powder in the mail, i took about 10 grams of bali over the course of an hour and a half. (it was too hard to dose since i scooped them in gelcaps, at most i took 13)
i had a very good experience combining it with weed, though i definitely remember being at a higher level when i mixed 30 mgs hydro with pot.

the only thing that turned it to shit was the itching i got about 2 and a half hours in, at that point it turned from a negligible nose itch to a full body attack that lasted an hour and a half, i took about 25 mgs diphenhydramine IM and i felt more sedated but the itching progressed.
is there a better alternative to relieve the itching?
i have phenergan suppositories, would that be better? i'm not looking for more sedation, because that dampens the high.
the only tolerance i have are to pot and benzos

any advice would be appreciated, i've searched and some people say that you should embrace the itchiness , maybe it will go away when i try again tomorrow.

 

[phalaris]

haha.. yeah the first time I tried it I got a really annoying nose itch.. Ihad to rub my nose with the back of my hand every 10 seconds. It only turned into a mild body itch. After that I haven't noticed much of the bitch itch, but I haven't really had a high dose yet since. I just take enough to feel a smooth calmness. Also I bought some Red Leaf thai and it is SIGNIFICANTLY weaker than Maeng Da. I wanted more than 28 grams so I went for 114 and got this semi-crushed lower grade stuff. I ended up grinding all 4 1-oz bags in my coffee grinder and that powdered it just fine but it takes a bit more of gulping that stuff down that I just keep it to low doses. I was trying to take an economic approach anyway.
I think Maeng Da is the way to go for me from now on, as long as I have the money.

 

[haikod]

thanks, the other day (second day in a row) i took 14 grams over the course of 1.5 hours and i felt no itching, but i felt much less of an opiate effect. my body felt more disconnected from my mind than the first time where i felt like i was melting into my bed.

 

[dutchie3k]

As a result of kratom becoming better known as of late, there are a multitude of ripoff gimp ass scams cropping up. I stuck to leaf and powder from the beginning. As of late I just found a 15x extract at a VERY reasonable price that has proved to be very nice. However that resin is in fact garbage

 

[basario]

I would not bother with resin, it sucks.
idk what happens during the making process but it loses potency
I got 10g 8x resin which would mean 8 grams of leaf for 1 gram of resin so this should have been 80g leaf..not so since I ended up eating the whole thing and barely feel anything. usually 16g of powder is enough to get me well
I do have a fairly high tolerance though