Kratom question

[phsycra]

Hi

Just a quick question. I've been looking into getting some kratom I've had it before 15X kratom first time was good buzz but got nothing from it again after that. Anyway my question is what's the best kind of kratom to get as there seems to be so many. Is it just subjective and dependanton the person? I wouldn't mind trying different types of kratom out but its not that cheap. Looking for the strongest euphoria and what sort of doses shud I be taking as last time I had 15 grams and was mixin like 5 grams with a pint of water and downing it but got nothing from it and it was meant to be 15X as strong as normal kraton

 

[NeighborhoodThreat]

There are usually some pretty wide variations in quality of kratom, from what I've experienced personally...and read on this board. So, even if your "15x" kratom came from the same vendor...its possible that the potency varied enough to make a difference.

Kratom also creates a tolerance just like other opiates do. We don't do product or vendor discussion here so we can't dive into that. My best recommendation for you is to find a vendor that works best for you.

Good luck.

 

[tokenname]

I think it is subjective and dependant on the person,..
I only have experience w/bali powder..
and a thai strain or two..

My suggestion: I think there's a kratom megathread over in OD with a wealth of
info..that could help you with all your questions...best dosages and such...

or hang a bit..and somebody w/more experience will come along...
or multi-task and do both!

good luck...
token

 

[Cane2theLeft]

Pfft, kratom IS very cheap compared to pharmaceuticals for example. Most people prefer the plain leaf products because the produce the best effects but ARE kind of annoying because they require rather massive doses you either have to choke down, laboriously prepare into tea or put in capsules. By far the most common and desirable commercial strain is Bali.

Some extracts are good but most 15x are total crap. If you get extracts, you want full-spectrum which most 15x aren't. They only extract 1 or 2 of the more potent alkaloids and it produces quite different effects from the plain leaf products. A good middle ground are blends which combine full spectrum extracts and plain leaf... you get a good effect profile with a substantially smaller amount of material to work with. Some full-spectrum extracts do produce quite nice effects though but you really need to do your homework. They should explain that it is full-spectrum and if they are really good, list quantities of the desirable alkaloids such as mitragynine and 7-hydroxymitragynine.

There are a lot of terms for products that are vendor-specific and mentioning them here would be akin to putting a link straight to the vendor so anyone replying after this, please be sure you are using generic-enough terms. If the "brand" when googled links directly to a specific vendor, please do not use it.

Great call on the kratom mega thread in OD as well, token... you can probably find that in the Other Drugs directory at the top of this page or just head over to Other Drugs and it's probably on the front page.

 

[killerd]

I always go with Maeng Da kratom, it's the strongest strain I've come across. 5g of MD powder mixed in a small glass of water would be a light to moderate dose for me. I only do it occasionaly; once every few weeks tops. Or the same amount with the crushed leaf triple half hour hot water w/lemon juice extraction (careful not to boil it though - once it's up to almost boiling turn it down to just a gentle heat).
I've not really had so much luck with extracts so I don't bother with them myself.
I never put it in a whole pint of water though, I don't really know but maybe using less water to increase the concentration might help?