Opioids Kratom Mega Thread v. 5

[Droppersneck]

I must be an anomaly on all facets kratom. I don't get the constipation. It seems to do the opposite for me.

Would you say kratom acts as a laxative for you?

 

[Snake_Eyes]

Would you say kratom acts as a laxative for you?

Not for me. What I've noticed is that I can do 4 grams twice a day every day and not get constipated much but 8 grams once a day for 3-4 days is constipating causing me to only drop marbles.

 

[bingey]

I have the same from it.. Like I can be depressed and feel nothing on it. It's great for stress or anxiety or anything like that. I can feel nothing on it. That's what I love about it.

I must be an anomaly on all facets kratom. I don't get the constipation. It seems to do the opposite for me. But, I am also weird and get munchies on it where most people lose their appetite. Eating kills the buzz though, so what I do is eat before I take it and then I can go hours without killing the buzz.

I'm an anomaly on all drugs though. Weed makes me extremely tired and paranoid so I can't smoke any unless I'm at home and ready to go to bed. It sucks because I always decline when it's offered. Everything affects me differently I guess.

After about 3 days I no longer feel the stimulating effects but I feel the numbness in emotions which is why I always want to take it. I find that I can keep a buzz going if I skip 2 days between 1-2 days of taking it.

You're a habitual user Lysis negative side effects tend to fade. Also opiate munchies are a documented thing you can do a search on it it's usually a craving for sweets I get it too. Although you are right that unlike most other options kratom is a true appetite suppressor.

 

[strity1994]

Anyone find their libido tanks on kratom? I don't have this problem on other opiates (morphine, Hydromorphone). But take a lil bit of Kratom, and u can say bye bye to libido lol. My guess is that kratom has anti depressant effects unlike traditional opiates and affects more neurotransmitters than we think.

 

[Oxygal]

8) I tried Kratom powder (in capsules) last summer (2015). It was recommended for my pain and the suicide level depression that rides shotgun to the pain. I ordered the Maeng Dai for uplift/stimulation.

Really LONG story, but basically my GI shuts down with pain meds. There's little I can do for my pain, unless I give up my career and go home to medicate and wait for death. So...I'm assessing better options to deal with the depression. I'm a tough little chick, but decades of HURT have robbed me of my motivation and "give a shit".

Back to the Kratom...I found that it "numbed" me emotionally (no anger or sadness). I just felt "smooth" if that makes any sense. It allowed me to keep up my façade of "I'm good" for a couple of hard weeks. We lost one of our darling Dalmatians just days after my birthday. It broke my heart, but the Kratom kept me together. It kept me calm whereas I would have otherwise lost it. I actually thought perhaps I was in shock, because I wasn't crying inconsolably.

Hindsight tells me it was not shock, but benefits of Kratom I'd taken. I thought holy shit...I've found a miracle!

I had to stop before I really got started, as pre-existing constipation advanced to a partial bowel obstruction. I have no clue as to whether the Kratom made my tummy troubles worse...or if it was just coincidence.

Anyone else experience constipation from Kratom? I'd be taking it NOW if I didn't fear obstruction.

Meanwhile, I'm trying MMJ which doesn't seem to be the answer, either.

Something's gotta give...before I give up.

You're a habitual user Lysis negative side effects tend to fade. Also opiate munchies are a documented thing you can do a search on it it's usually a craving for sweets I get it too. Although you are right that unlike most other options kratom is a true appetite suppressor.

Idk, it's weird. I'm new to Kratom (2 weeks) and I've found certain kinds suppress my appetite and the kind I have now actually gives me the munchies. No kind, so far, has caused constipation. Actually, the opposite. That's a side effect I don't like.

 

[DixiChik]

I guess the poop is always "looser" on the other side!

IF ONLY the Kratom would give me the squirts...then I wouldn't have to spend $250 per month for Linzess 290.

IF ONLY I could numb the pain and desperation that is my life. I can continue to my futile efforts to save the world!

($250+ per month for Linzess? YES...that's outrageously expensive. YES, I've done it ALL to pass poop for 30+years. YES, folks would pay this if ALL else is failing.)

In defense of Kratom: As I said in previous post, CONSTIPATION for me is pre-existing due to disease/surgery/trauma. Perhaps it was coincidence (not Kratom) that I suffered the obstruction. I loved the mood lift!

HYDRATION is a must, either way. I can't drink enough liquid to keep hydrated! I liked that the Maeng Dai didn't increase appetite. I don't like to eat. It hurts too bad!

 

[DixiChik]

No, No, Oxygal...No...I was not responding to YOU specifically...I was being "fece"cious about my condition.

My remarks were never intended for YOU or any specific YOU...

The statement in parenthesis is for MANY RANDOM folks online that will interject, often while trolling.

BTW...WELCOME to BL!

I'm sorry if I came off "not funny". I've always been told I'm full of shit. They're right.

I was actually "defending" Kratom's good properties...wishing I could use it! I didn't want anyone to base their choice to use it on MY constipation.

I'll go back and see if I can word my post in a way that does not offend.

 

[strity1994]

No, No, Oxygal...No...I was not responding to YOU specifically...I was being "fece"cious about my condition.

My remarks were never intended for YOU or any specific YOU...

The statement in parenthesis is for MANY RANDOM folks online that will interject, often while trolling.

BTW...WELCOME to BL!

I'm sorry if I came off "not funny". I've always been told I'm full of shit. They're right.

I was actually "defending" Kratom's good properties...wishing I could use it! I didn't want anyone to base their choice to use it on MY constipation.

I'll go back and see if I can word my post in a way that does not offend.

Ur a strong woman but I sense alot of anger in ur posts. Anger towards life in general.

 

[the last dose]

I think bali would be a good strain as it is more sedating ie more opioid alkaloids. You're not going the equivalent of 90mg oxy when switching to kratom, but if you do maybe 8 grams x3/day I believe you would have very minor withdrawal symptoms and I believe you would be able to function fine at work.. I wouldn't go much higher than that since you are new to kratom and would be prone to side effects if you go to high on the dosage, such as eye wiggles, nausea and just dysphoria/malaise when you dose kratom too high and aren't tolerant to these effects.

Also when you taper the kratom you would be dealing with minor withdrawals as long as you taper correctly, and no you wouldn't be facing oxy withdrawals if you've been on the kratom for a decent period of time.

thanks for the info, i was wondering how long can i do 7 or 8 grams kratom 2 to 3 times daily after jumping off oxy without having to face heavy kratom withdrawls. I do plan on staying on kratom long enough that i will have to taper from it, the main reason i want to stay on kratom so long is i want to make sure my LONGTERM oxy use is gone out of my system for sure before i stop kratom

 

[scarlet_tunic]

I have the same from it.. Like I can be depressed and feel nothing on it. It's great for stress or anxiety or anything like that. I can feel nothing on it. That's what I love about it.

I must be an anomaly on all facets kratom. I don't get the constipation. It seems to do the opposite for me. But, I am also weird and get munchies on it where most people lose their appetite. Eating kills the buzz though, so what I do is eat before I take it and then I can go hours without killing the buzz.

I'm an anomaly on all drugs though. Weed makes me extremely tired and paranoid so I can't smoke any unless I'm at home and ready to go to bed. It sucks because I always decline when it's offered. Everything affects me differently I guess.

After about 3 days I no longer feel the stimulating effects but I feel the numbness in emotions which is why I always want to take it. I find that I can keep a buzz going if I skip 2 days between 1-2 days of taking it.

That's the thing though.. it's not like you feel nothing, is it? It's that you feel GOOD; you feel positive emotions. It's not exactly numbing. It's a pronounced and deliberate mood lift. This is why I don't like the characterization of kratom as a 'numbing' agent. It has sparked my creativity at times, has made it easier to put pen to paper, has made me more socially comfortable.

 

[Oxygal]

That's the thing though.. it's not like you feel nothing, is it? It's that you feel GOOD; you feel positive emotions. It's not exactly numbing. It's a pronounced and deliberate mood lift. This is why I don't like the characterization of kratom as a 'numbing' agent. It has sparked my creativity at times, has made it easier to put pen to paper, has made me more socially comfortable.

^ This. I don't feel numb, just a better version of myself with more energy, a mood lift, and more motivation. I like who I am without it, however, it's nice to have as a perk now and then.

 

[Mynameisphil]

This mood lift that you're talking about is exactly why I am starting to get worried about my Kratom use. I've never been addicted to a drug, but Kratom I could see myself taking everyday. When im on it im the version of me I want to be. I feel how I want to feel, and it's worrying me. I just swallowed 7 grams before class, why did I do that? I don't need drugs for school, but I did it anyways. Sigh. If i can't get it under control myself, I might have to have my girlfriend intervene. But yes, Kratom has a MAJOR mood lift for me. Difference between ️night and day

 

[scarlet_tunic]

Both of you are pretty much describing my attitude toward it too. It depends on perspective -- yeah, something is capable of lifting your mood and making your day / night (or both) better, but why should that be a bad thing? I'm OK without krat too... but it just gives that little bit extra. it does probably cause structural changes within the brain in terms of your dopamine, but so do a number of other things: coffee, cigarettes, sugar. And it's not something you can't cut if you really wanted to.

 

[EphemeralOutlet141]

Both of you are pretty much describing my attitude toward it too. It depends on perspective -- yeah, something is capable of lifting your mood and making your day / night (or both) better, but why should that be a bad thing? I'm OK without krat too... but it just gives that little bit extra. it does probably cause structural changes within the brain in terms of your dopamine, but so do a number of other things: coffee, cigarettes, sugar. And it's not something you can't cut if you really wanted to.

It's truly a great substance. The last thing I took to get the same effects left me in w/d for 9 days when I ran out. I can skip Kratom and not even notice.

 

[strity1994]

Kratom rocks , I was able to stop Phenibut cold turkey because of it

 

[Ratched]

For those of you that get that ssri high feel from Tramadol, which Kratom is best and what is the best way to ingest it for best results? I've read 10 pages and can't find this answer. (For tramadol users)

 

[Oxygal]

I think I've read some people say that Kratom use diminishes sex drive. Is this with long term use or just in general? So far, it actually kind of puts me in the mood. I took Prozac for about 9 months several years ago and it totally destroyed my sex drive. Just don't want that same side effect....

 

[EphemeralOutlet141]

I think I've read some people say that Kratom use diminishes sex drive. Is this with long term use or just in general? So far, it actually kind of puts me in the mood. I took Prozac for about 9 months several years ago and it totally destroyed my sex drive. Just don't want that same side effect....

It only really fucks up my libido when I'm on it or just coming off of it, but YMMV.

 

[Ziiirp]

Low dose is libido enhancing. Medium/High dose numbs too much, so is counter-indicated.

Of course it is also strain dependent. White vein batches are more likely to induce hornyness than red vein (standard Bali,Borneo) strains.

 

[Ratched]

Since it is from a leaf, leaf can be tea. I make all kinds of Kombucha. I wonder if anyone has made Kratom Kombucha and what kind of effect a fermented Kratom would have?