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Kratom, Kanna, Coca, Cannabis | Experienced | Nature's Ecstasy

Seattle_Stranger

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I've been experimenting with Kanna and Coca quite extensively lately, getting mild results from both. I'm very experienced with Cannabis and Kratom, normally using both daily. I've also been searching for a combination of benign natural sources to achieve effects similar to that of popular toxic, unpredictable, dangerous party drugs. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy a good MDMA roll just as much as the next guy, however I'm a huge fan of non-toxic, safe, natural things and strongly believe there is a way to achieve a similar state using said natural sources. Having rolled on excellent quality MDMA very recently, the feeling is quite fresh in my memory and easy to compare. So far, I've experimented with various combos including mushrooms, ephedra, caffeine, guarana, kava, kratom, and others, and I have come quite close a few times! Last night, I decided I was going to try the following combo, after my girlfriend invited me out for drinks with her friends:

500mg Kanna (oral)
8g bali kratom (oral)
3g coca leaves (buccal)
Cannabis (smoked, 1 hit)



All week I've been taking small oral doses of kanna and I finally feel the positive effects from it. It has quite a complex makeup of sensations, but overall the immediate effects are pupil dilation, brightening of colors, stimulation, empathy, and a seemingly universal potentiation...meaning kanna seems to potentiate absolutely anything including cannabis. I also notice a long-term effect of kanna that seems to spill over and last for many days. It's a general feeling of anti-depression, as if I have become more comfortable in my life, like it's all gunna be ok, less worried/anxious about the future, less self-critical, more optimistic, but not quite 'high', just in good spirits....and ironically enough, less inclined to use drugs... =D

I've also been messing around with coca leaves, trying various doses and ROA's, with and without alcohol, and so far the best method is simply chewing a few grams with baking soda. I finished off my first order (gave most of it away to friends) and ordered another shipment. I don't know why, but this new shipment seems MUCH stronger, fresher, something! The last batch would give me negligible effects, arguably inactive but some very subtle effects kept me interested. This batch however, ZAZING!!!!! Chewing on a few grams brings on a strong feeling of wakefulness, stimulation, and dare I say....euphoria!! I chewed on some at work and noticed that I got really pleasantly speedy as opposed to the borderline anxiousness/sedation the last batch gave me.

Report starts in the early morning, as I rise for work, down the hatch goes 400mg cimetidine and 9g bali kratom. Subtle effects are felt from the kratom due to tolerance, but it still does it's job. Feelin' fine. Lunch time comes, I go home and steep ~500mg of powdered kanna in warm water for 5 mins. Gulped down w/ soda and Chinese food. As I;m about to leave for work, I decide to load up 5g of coca for chewing. I load my mouth with 5g of leaves an about a quarter tsp of baking soda. Back to work. By the time I'm at work, I'm zingin' hard! Walking fast, noticeable pressure behind my eyes, I have a mouth full of leaves but I'm dying to chat someone's ear off. I sit at my desk and chew the leaves for a good hour or more, then swallow most of it. The rest of the day at work goes by extremely fast and I am vastly productive, chatting with strangers, solving issues, feeling like an all star!


Having said that, I got home from work and my girlfriend invites me out for drinks. I down 8g bali kratom, and I take one decent hit of good cannabis. Having gotten such good effects from the coca earlier, I decide to load up an additional 3g for the car ride (~30 mins). By the time I'm half way there, I'm feeling absolutely fan-fucking-tastic. Noticeable onset of coca effects, almost like I sudden sat straight up in my chair and eyes popped wide open, WHAM~! There it is! This feels unbelievably like the onset of speedy MDMA. I feel euphoric, everything looks super shiny, colorful and sharp, I feel awake, alive, ready for anything, way more excited to go to the bar than I should be :p

I get to the bar and I'm speeding so hard that when I get to the table that my girlfriend is at, I have trouble hiding the fact that I was high. I was yapyapyapyapyapyappin' like a mad man, talking to her friends and their dates (many of which I've never met) and basically made the table my stage because within minutes, I was the head of the conversation, everyone listening to me, laughing at my jokes, basically like the life of the party just arrived! I knew I was acting like I just blew lines, and I could even tell some of her more experienced friends were raising eyebrows... I didn't care, my brain was firing on all cylinders and the 3 shots of whiskey I had within ~20 minutes didn't even phase me. If anything, they boosted my euphoria. i was having a blast, was ready to dance, run around the block, make 100 friends, I was unstoppable. I absolutely could not believe how good I felt.

We leave the bar and go back to her place. I still feel speeeeeeeeeeedy as hell, I can feel the receptors in my brain doing the happy dance, as if with every heart beat I feel a small rush of pleasure in my head, ridiculously similar to when I'm rolling HARD on good MDMA, except a FAR less chemical feeling. This felt very natural, while at the same time felt obviously like drug effects. All the while, my body felt happy though, as if it wasn't being ruined, hurt, or abused by hard drugs. It was a very gentle, yet very intense experience. I took another shot of whiskey, smoked a bowl, and we climbed into bed. Still speedy, feeling amazing, my girlfriend and I have the most intense sex we've had in a long time, and while the whole thing was immensely awesome, I was unable to 'finish'. Not a problem, we've been going for a good hour, I got my fill %)

After we finish up, I lay on my back and she lays her head on my chest. At this point, I swear I felt more euphoric than most times I've rolled. I still feel very pleasantly speedy, my brain feels like it's doing the electric slide, I feel tingly all over, and yet, I feel relaxed, comfortable, ready to sleep! I comfortably drift off to sleep, waking up only a few times for a gulp of water and then right back to sleep. I wake up at the ass-crack of dawn because the lady has a work meeting, and yet, I'm bounding up and out of bed, smiling, happy, feeling rested, and even still feeling somewhat speedy!!! 8( Normally, not only after a night out drinking 'till ~2am, but on stimulants as well, AND having to wake up at ~6:30am, I should be a fricking miserable, groggy, grumpy zombie right now, but instead I'm bright eyed and bushy tailed, ready for the day, feeling noticeably happy and optimistic. Another very noticable feeling is that I had absolutely no desire to dose on kratom. This is completely astonishing, especially seeing how I'm completely addicted to it and use it daily, it's my morning routine, I usually don't feel ready for the day without it, and yet here I am willingly saying no to it. I'm legitimately impressed.


All in all I'd say this is the best 'drug' experience I've had in quite some time, far surpassing that of my recent experience with HIGH purity (tested) molly crystal. By that, I don't mean that the experience was more intense, more euphoric, or anything like that, we all know that absolutely nothing will ever hold a candle to the effects of MDMA. However, as a whole, the entire experience taken into account, the actual high, the duration, the toxicity, the next day, the after effects, the come down, etc., all factors considered, last night's experience as a whole was much better and more desirable to repeat. I have no desire to seek out MDMA again, yet I can't wait for tonight to try out this combo again. =D

Now, to add a very small amount of psilocybin mushrooms to the mix, and I think we will have the experience I've been looking for!

Thanks for reading!!
 
Very interesting, I would be interested in trying something similar once I have some more money to blow on shit like this
 
There's another nice part as well, is that all these materials dose-for-dose is extremely inexpensive, far less than one might pay for a similar experience on other popular chemicals. Put it this way, I paid more for 1 shot of whiskey than I did for all the materials used....and go figure, most of it is legal and ordered from the internet. iWin. :)
 
Follow up:

As enjoyable as 9g kratom, 500mg kanna, 3g coca, another 3g coca, a hit of cannabis and a coffee may sound for a night out, it's not exactly so great to repeat the next day if you are going to be chained to a desk for several hours. Just an observation...... 8o8(
 
Great report, man.

I wonder why coca leaves have not caught on with those of us who dabble, as, say, poppy pods have. Now... I bet that would be a nice combination ;)
 
Great report, man.

I wonder why coca leaves have not caught on with those of us who dabble, as, say, poppy pods have. Now... I bet that would be a nice combination ;)

I read on Erowid about a dude who used to say at the peak of a poppy pod tea high, he'd insufflate some kanna and he called it "unadulterated bliss" and that it was indistinguishable from an MDMA high. I'd dying to try....of course I'd add coca to the mix. Know what else is cool about coca? It's a potent anti-nauseant, and especially after drinking down kratom, kanna, pod tea, whatever, my stomach usually gets mad at me for a little while. With coca, there's not a hint of nausea!! That alone makes it a good addition...

The kratom+coca is a nice pseudo-speedball. Actually, it's quite a real speedball if you ask me. :)
 
Coca leaves sound very interesting its just to make this as cheap as you said, I would have to be buying multiple products in bulk quantities. I also have dome magic mushrooms growing so I would love to try like 1 gram + a similar mixture of yours. Would probably make it more mdma like adding in that little trippy feeling although it might even be good to take a higher mushroom dose and see what happens. This interests me a lot as I have recently become more conscious about my health and would love a completely all natural way to get 'high' apart from cannabis and the obvious psychedelic plants.
 
Is kratom even worth trying?

Yes, kratom is by far the most effective legal ethnobotanical available. By far more euphoric than anything else. It even rivals most illegal street drugs. Every now and then I get my hands on some oxy, and even after snorting a bunch of that, I find myself thinking that a good strong cup of kratom would've been better. I even had some REALLY pure MDMA the other day, and even then I thought to myself how kratom probably would've been just as good. Trust me, kratom is VERY worth it.

Do the coca leaves numb your mouth like cocaine does? How do they taste?

Yes. Imagine you arrive home with a gram of coke. You open the bag and spill the entire thing into your mouth and swish it around for 45 minutes. Imagine how numb that would make your mouth, face and head. That's what chewing coca feels like. :) Then on top of that you get a very strong stimulation that makes you want to do laps around the block! At first, dumping a bunch of dry tea leaves and salty baking soda into your mouth does not taste very yummy, however after a few minutes, your entire tongue and mouth goes numb, so you don't taste anything anymore anyway, so it doesn't matter at that point! Basically, imagine chewing on a few tea bags of green tea, it's almost the exact same taste.



Tonight I plan to use the same combo as before, except this time I'm going to add a small pinch of mushroom dust to the mix for that subtle psychedelic edge. I think that combo will certainly result in an experience matching, or maybe even surpassing that of MDMA.
 
Great report, man.

I wonder why coca leaves have not caught on with those of us who dabble, as, say, poppy pods have. Now... I bet that would be a nice combination ;)

tuxilense are were the win is at

making tea which you steep for maybe an hour or more is also the way to go. been at this shit for a long time and huge amounts of truxilense leaves steeped for over an hour are fucking amazing and so much cheaper than buying street cocaine. i had one friend call it crack juice
 
Hey Seattle stranger! Love your trip report and this thread in general. I've been wanting to experience kratom but don't know what to buy or where to buy. I've seen this one web site that had kratom leaves, tea, and powder. Idk which one is the best and alittle skeptical about the website as I don't know anyone who's ever bought any from it.
So if you could just please explain to me what 'kind' of kratom I would want to get and the web site I could get it from would freakin awesome! :D
 
tuxilense are were the win is at

making tea which you steep for maybe an hour or more is also the way to go. been at this shit for a long time and huge amounts of truxilense leaves steeped for over an hour are fucking amazing and so much cheaper than buying street cocaine. i had one friend call it crack juice

Never heard of it. What is it? Also, google showed no results. Did you spell it wrong?
 
tuxilense are were the win is at

making tea which you steep for maybe an hour or more is also the way to go. been at this shit for a long time and huge amounts of truxilense leaves steeped for over an hour are fucking amazing and so much cheaper than buying street cocaine. i had one friend call it crack juice

Yeah I've read about that, but I have no idea where I'd get those leaves.

I really would like to find a way to get this coca to work well orally. So far I've had inconclusive results swallowing coca leaves in various preparations, however buccal seems to yield results each time. It's just inconvenient to have to have a mouth stuffed full of leaves for ~45 mins. Not exactly a popular look. :p

Thanks for the kind responses! I might go for adding the shrooms tonight, but I'm undecided. I might leave that for another weekend, it's already been a long one...
 
I've been experimenting with Kanna and Coca quite extensively lately, getting mild results from both. I'm very experienced with Cannabis and Kratom, normally using both daily. I've also been searching for a combination of benign natural sources to achieve effects similar to that of popular toxic, unpredictable, dangerous party drugs. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy a good MDMA roll just as much as the next guy, however I'm a huge fan of non-toxic, safe, natural things and strongly believe there is a way to achieve a similar state using said natural sources. Having rolled on excellent quality MDMA very recently, the feeling is quite fresh in my memory and easy to compare. So far, I've experimented with various combos including mushrooms, ephedra, caffeine, guarana, kava, kratom, and others, and I have come quite close a few times! Last night, I decided I was going to try the following combo, after my girlfriend invited me out for drinks with her friends:

500mg Kanna (oral)
8g bali kratom (oral)
3g coca leaves (buccal)
Cannabis (smoked, 1 hit)



All week I've been taking small oral doses of kanna and I finally feel the positive effects from it. It has quite a complex makeup of sensations, but overall the immediate effects are pupil dilation, brightening of colors, stimulation, empathy, and a seemingly universal potentiation...meaning kanna seems to potentiate absolutely anything including cannabis. I also notice a long-term effect of kanna that seems to spill over and last for many days. It's a general feeling of anti-depression, as if I have become more comfortable in my life, like it's all gunna be ok, less worried/anxious about the future, less self-critical, more optimistic, but not quite 'high', just in good spirits....and ironically enough, less inclined to use drugs... =D

I've also been messing around with coca leaves, trying various doses and ROA's, with and without alcohol, and so far the best method is simply chewing a few grams with baking soda. I finished off my first order (gave most of it away to friends) and ordered another shipment. I don't know why, but this new shipment seems MUCH stronger, fresher, something! The last batch would give me negligible effects, arguably inactive but some very subtle effects kept me interested. This batch however, ZAZING!!!!! Chewing on a few grams brings on a strong feeling of wakefulness, stimulation, and dare I say....euphoria!! I chewed on some at work and noticed that I got really pleasantly speedy as opposed to the borderline anxiousness/sedation the last batch gave me.

Report starts in the early morning, as I rise for work, down the hatch goes 400mg cimetidine and 9g bali kratom. Subtle effects are felt from the kratom due to tolerance, but it still does it's job. Feelin' fine. Lunch time comes, I go home and steep ~500mg of powdered kanna in warm water for 5 mins. Gulped down w/ soda and Chinese food. As I;m about to leave for work, I decide to load up 5g of coca for chewing. I load my mouth with 5g of leaves an about a quarter tsp of baking soda. Back to work. By the time I'm at work, I'm zingin' hard! Walking fast, noticeable pressure behind my eyes, I have a mouth full of leaves but I'm dying to chat someone's ear off. I sit at my desk and chew the leaves for a good hour or more, then swallow most of it. The rest of the day at work goes by extremely fast and I am vastly productive, chatting with strangers, solving issues, feeling like an all star!


Having said that, I got home from work and my girlfriend invites me out for drinks. I down 8g bali kratom, and I take one decent hit of good cannabis. Having gotten such good effects from the coca earlier, I decide to load up an additional 3g for the car ride (~30 mins). By the time I'm half way there, I'm feeling absolutely fan-fucking-tastic. Noticeable onset of coca effects, almost like I sudden sat straight up in my chair and eyes popped wide open, WHAM~! There it is! This feels unbelievably like the onset of speedy MDMA. I feel euphoric, everything looks super shiny, colorful and sharp, I feel awake, alive, ready for anything, way more excited to go to the bar than I should be :p

I get to the bar and I'm speeding so hard that when I get to the table that my girlfriend is at, I have trouble hiding the fact that I was high. I was yapyapyapyapyapyappin' like a mad man, talking to her friends and their dates (many of which I've never met) and basically made the table my stage because within minutes, I was the head of the conversation, everyone listening to me, laughing at my jokes, basically like the life of the party just arrived! I knew I was acting like I just blew lines, and I could even tell some of her more experienced friends were raising eyebrows... I didn't care, my brain was firing on all cylinders and the 3 shots of whiskey I had within ~20 minutes didn't even phase me. If anything, they boosted my euphoria. i was having a blast, was ready to dance, run around the block, make 100 friends, I was unstoppable. I absolutely could not believe how good I felt.

We leave the bar and go back to her place. I still feel speeeeeeeeeeedy as hell, I can feel the receptors in my brain doing the happy dance, as if with every heart beat I feel a small rush of pleasure in my head, ridiculously similar to when I'm rolling HARD on good MDMA, except a FAR less chemical feeling. This felt very natural, while at the same time felt obviously like drug effects. All the while, my body felt happy though, as if it wasn't being ruined, hurt, or abused by hard drugs. It was a very gentle, yet very intense experience. I took another shot of whiskey, smoked a bowl, and we climbed into bed. Still speedy, feeling amazing, my girlfriend and I have the most intense sex we've had in a long time, and while the whole thing was immensely awesome, I was unable to 'finish'. Not a problem, we've been going for a good hour, I got my fill %)

After we finish up, I lay on my back and she lays her head on my chest. At this point, I swear I felt more euphoric than most times I've rolled. I still feel very pleasantly speedy, my brain feels like it's doing the electric slide, I feel tingly all over, and yet, I feel relaxed, comfortable, ready to sleep! I comfortably drift off to sleep, waking up only a few times for a gulp of water and then right back to sleep. I wake up at the ass-crack of dawn because the lady has a work meeting, and yet, I'm bounding up and out of bed, smiling, happy, feeling rested, and even still feeling somewhat speedy!!! 8( Normally, not only after a night out drinking 'till ~2am, but on stimulants as well, AND having to wake up at ~6:30am, I should be a fricking miserable, groggy, grumpy zombie right now, but instead I'm bright eyed and bushy tailed, ready for the day, feeling noticeably happy and optimistic. Another very noticable feeling is that I had absolutely no desire to dose on kratom. This is completely astonishing, especially seeing how I'm completely addicted to it and use it daily, it's my morning routine, I usually don't feel ready for the day without it, and yet here I am willingly saying no to it. I'm legitimately impressed.


All in all I'd say this is the best 'drug' experience I've had in quite some time, far surpassing that of my recent experience with HIGH purity (tested) molly crystal. By that, I don't mean that the experience was more intense, more euphoric, or anything like that, we all know that absolutely nothing will ever hold a candle to the effects of MDMA. However, as a whole, the entire experience taken into account, the actual high, the duration, the toxicity, the next day, the after effects, the come down, etc., all factors considered, last night's experience as a whole was much better and more desirable to repeat. I have no desire to seek out MDMA again, yet I can't wait for tonight to try out this combo again. =D

Now, to add a very small amount of psilocybin mushrooms to the mix, and I think we will have the experience I've been looking for!

Thanks for reading!!


That is a very articulate review..

You wouldn't happen to know how to make Kratom oil Extract would you ?

I want a pure oil extract to combine with another oil and a dash of something else. ?

Talk to me I'm all ears ( Or eyes for this matter )

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