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Kratom - Inexperienced - Kratom at different doses

MidnightHunt

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I received some green vein borneo kratom yesterday and am experimenting with doses and effects of kratom. Yesterday I started off with 2 tsp (about 5-6 grams) of kratom. I spent the next few hours on the computer waiting for it to kick in. I did not feel the mental of the kratom however the pain killer and I believe the energy boosting effects were present as I had bit myself to test if it was working and I was able to stay awake for 24 whilst normally I would have great difficulty doing such. I believe the fact that I was on the computer played a big roll in why I did not feel the mental effects due to the following observations of taking it a second time.

about 6-7 hours later at about 4-5am I began feeling tired and took 1 tsp (about 2.5-3 grams) using the toss and wash method to gauge if this level would be sufficient for energy boosting effects. I decided to lay down. After a little while I began to feel a full body high and a sense of euphoria that was very calming. I ended up keeping getting close to falling asleep and then forcing myself to open my eyes to stay awake but ended up passing out anyway though only for a few hours about 4.


I have taken 2 tsp of kratom once again using the toss and wash method. I cannot remember at what time. At first my tiredness had disappeared, I was able to be productive and my limbs felt a bit light and I became slightly nauseous with the nausea increasing over time. I believe the nausea is from the repeated kratom use within a short time span as I did not feel nauseous during my first dose. Over an hour after consuming the kratom I ended up puking up a mouthful of a mixture of iced tea and kratom which appeared to have about a half a teaspoon to a teaspoon of kratom in it. This did not seem to effect the high negatively at all and rather appeared to help it as after puking my nausea went away and I began to feel euphoria. Despite being on the computer this time as well the effects were more noticeable than the first time I took it though not as noticeable as the second time where I just laid down doing nothing I have 2 theories for why it may be more noticeable than the first time I took it the first being I now know what to expect and therefore it is easier for me to notice what is going on. The other is that the same way I and others have not gotten high on cannabis the first time smoking it. Not exactly sure why that happens but perhaps this is the same type of thing. I am enjoying the effects of a 2 tsp dose and will likely stick to using a 2 tsp dose as it provides both the energy and euphoria I am looking for.

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If you want energetic effects, i would stick to lower doses around 3.5g. With a low tolerance, 6g would cause me to be sedated and a little spacey.
 
If you want energetic effects, i would stick to lower doses around 3.5g. With a low tolerance, 6g would cause me to be sedated and a little spacey.

Thanks for the advice. After my first time taking kratom I was wondering if I took too much but after taking 2 tsp again it appears that 2 tsp is my sweet spot as 1 tsp was too low to keep me awake however 2 did the job well.
 
I don't know why the goddam DEA is going after something as wonderful as Kratom? It in no way is a public health threat. I highly doubt Kratom has ever harmed anyone, it certainly hasn't killed anyone. A Kratom OD would just make the person throw up. Opiate pain meds kill 14,000 each year.
 
Yea it sucks big time :/

A lot of non drug taking people see every "drug" as evil. They hear that people are taking something, like kratom, to get "high" and they fear the worst. The DEA seems to respond in a similar fashion. If a substance is recreational then it seems they want to take it away from us under the guise that they are "protecting" us.

Also, there is a lot of speculation that the DEA wants to ban kratom because more and more people are using kratom instead of pharmaceutical opiates. We live in a capitalist economy... Pharmaceutical companies make ALOT of money therefore they have quite a bit of influence and may be partially behind kratoms scheduling. They want people to stay hooked on their expensive pharms.

A lot of money is made off of addicts as well. The justice system alone probably makes a fortune by arresting, charging and housing people for drug related crimes. Treatment centers, rehabs, etc also rake in the dough treating addicts. Pharmaceutical companies make a lot of money selling opiate replacent medications like bupe and methadone. Currently addicts can easily maintain on kratom legally... This potentially takes away money from all these things. It's possible all of these big companies are persuading the DEA to schedule kratom. Money talks.
 
I took fifteen capsules (about ten grams) two days ago, and it made me very nauseous for about three hours. I had not done K in some time, perhaps a year. My opiate tolerance is moderate, yet I believe it made a difference that I had not taken K in particular for a while.

I will not be saddened when they schedule it. It has always been a 'meh' high anyway.
 
I took fifteen capsules (about ten grams) two days ago, and it made me very nauseous for about three hours. I had not done K in some time, perhaps a year. My opiate tolerance is moderate, yet I believe it made a difference that I had not taken K in particular for a while.

I will not be saddened when they schedule it. It has always been a 'meh' high anyway.
anyways,its a much safer,less addicting maintenance drug than methadone or bupe and should be legally available for addicts
 
2 grams threshold
5.5 grams optimal
8 grams heavy
10+ grams excessive
Better to take two 5.5 an hour apart
 
CL - I gotta politely disagree with your dosage recs. ,
5gr - mild
10gr - strong
15gr - Charlie Murphy
20+gr - ER

Re: The proposed scheduling of kratom. If the DEA is successful making kratom illegal I'm wondering how the hell will they stop mail importation? Barring random package inspections the most accurate method, that being canine scans, will be useless as kratom gives off no odors which would trigger a dog. Even then a large amount of marijuana, cocaine & heroin still are delivered to many mail boxes worldwide. The DEA has gotta be the least necessary federal law enforcement agency in existence. IMO all we need is the FBI. One domestic section, one international. No CIA, Secret Service, Homeland (BS), or Marshals. All unnecessary. They just milk the American taxpayers.
 
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