Opioids kratom has started to turn on me! Insomnia the next night after usage :( what now?

[Berdo tm1]

I couldnt sleep until about 9am this morning. I was just tossing and turning. I would get to the stage where you have those non coherent thoughts which is usually the sign Im about to drop off but I would not.

I take it 1 day, wait 4 days and take again on the fifth. I thought this was very respectful of this herb but apparently she is getting a little uppity even at this schedule!

I guess I should try adding an extra day each time and staying at that point and see if I have sleep problems etc etc until I dont get them any more.

Shame cos the 5th day already feels like such a long time coming in my otherwise bleak and punishing existence. Its easy for you guys to say stop taking it but i bet you have a cache of other drugs you are enjoying so its not a big deal if you drop it. Me, I only have cold harsh unforgiving sobriety to welcome me back into the rank and file.

Im gonna have to find something else to cover my bases.

 

[Erikmen]

Sobriety is the best thing you can wish for!!

Everyone tries, just a few actually make it.

So good for you! Be happy about it!

 

[Treefa]

If you still can't sleep take 50mg of Benadryl...

Sobriety isn't as bad as everybody makes it out to be....unless you use a gram of heroin a day for the last 3 months, I think you'll be OK!

Hell, maybe even better than ok...I've got a helluva an opiate tolerance (mainly used for pain, sleep, and just to help me be comfortable in general, cuz I never am, but I DO NOT get high, which is a miracle given the dosages I take), but recently I've been doing better, taking aout 3/4 my normal dose (major thing for me, I can notice even 1 pill less) but i'm still feeling good, my pain has improved and I HAVE PRETTY MUCH QUIT SMOKING..CIGARETTES which in of itself is a major fucking step for me..

And I feel better about myself, and just feel better in general...I used to get doped up (150 mg hydrocodone) without really getting high, so I cut back to 100 and now I don't feel NEARLY as crappy every morning when I wake up.

I'VE BEEN WAKING UP BEFORE NOON!!
THAT IS MY BIGGEST ACCOMPLISHMENT SINCE JUNIOR COLLEGE...LOL!

Sorry for ranting, I know it's not about me, I guess i'm just trying to sell you Sobriety, Berdo, because believe you me, if you keep taking that stuff, it will be exponentially worse everytime you quit....if you think it's bad without it already then you might think long and hard about giving up the junk...

Anyways good luck, try to think positive...think really hard about the difference between "Sobriety" and being "high"....you might see they aren't any different at all.

 

[《Plasticity》]

Judging by how many complaints you've made it sounds like kratom has turned on you from the beginning. What makes you think that your schedule has anything to do with this? Your not getting withdrawal or rebound from using once every four days so spreading your doses out more won't solve anything, it's the kratom itself. Kratom is a nor-adrenaline releaser, insomnia is just a possibility you have to accept when taking kratom... You can try taking your dose earlier, finding a strain that isn't so stimmy, or taking an otc sleep aid but besides that it sounds like you already know you should probably throw in the towel with kratom or suck it up and deal with the potential side-effects. You have to weight the benefits to the negatives.

If kratom has never caused insomnia before, then it's also a possibility that you were destined to have a rough nights sleep anyways, shit happens. There's just so many factors in this scenario. I have clinically diagnosed insomnia and RLS, which funny enough was entirely resolved by kratom (even after I quit) but let me give you a tip. If your having trouble sleeping, don't just lay there for hours trying your hardest to sleep. This backfires and causes even more insomnia, if you haven't passed out after an hour or two... turn on the TV or read a book (avoid using your phone or playing video games) and try again in a little bit... eventually you will get tired and ironically pass out before you would have if you would've tossed and turned all night. Don't take this the wrong way, but if kratom is causing so many side-effects I can't imagine how many complaints your gonna be having if you choose to start partaking in stimulants, bad idea. Your self medication doesn't sound like it's working out very well.