Kratom dosages?

[WorldWarMe]

About a week ago I was researching online recently about Kratom and decided to give it a try. I headed down to my local headshop and picked up 10g of Bali Kratom. I used to do Codeine quite a bit, but that was more then 6 or so months ago. I've did codeine once about three weeks ago and did oxycodone around 2 weeks ago. I did 30mg oxycodone to start and felt decent euphoria, then I snorted 15mg and started to feel quite good.

I came home expecting the best and guzzled down the kratom with orange juice (which is also supposed to be a potentiator according to a chart I read) and I felt very little effects. Maybe a dose of 15-20mg of oxycodone would compare to it but it was nothing like what I was expecting.

I'm thinking of going back tomorrow and trying a higher dose, since I waited a week to make sure no tolerance built up. I'm thinking of buying 30 grams and doing 20g at once and save the 10mg for a redose later on in the day (if the 20g works).

Would 20 grams be too much? I couldn't imagine it being considering 10 grams hardly did shit.

Any advice would be appreciated, thanks in advanced.

 

[jeckel]

Kratom varies WAY too much in strength/quality to give you an accurate answer. I’ve heard of massive doses not giving any greater effect then abut 50mg of tram. And then I've heard of 20-15 mg giving an effect similar to 40mg of Oxy. If you are buying it from a head shop then it tells me it must be legal where you are, I recommend asking the shop you are getting it from what they recommend.

Also changes allot with age and what for it is in (liquid, powder, caps) etc.

Too many variables to give you a helpful answer.

I recommend getting a large batch (so that the strength is all going to be the same) and experimenting by increasing the dose in SMALL amounts till you find what you are looking for.

I also have NO idea about how this reacts with other drugs, so you might want to research that as well (again the shop should be able to help with that)


Sorry I couldn't be of more use,

Jeck

 

[WorldWarMe]

Yeah, I live in Canada so it's legal. I did ask the shop and they reccomended the Bali kratom, even over the 15x Thai Extract. I told him about my tolerance to opiates (he asked) and he recommended taking 10 grams.

 

[jeckel]

and how are you taking it? caps? tea? smoking? Info will help in finding the safest way to find your ideal dose. also is it the extract or leaf that you are buying?

 

[WorldWarMe]

Everything is in the first post bro.
I take it mixed with OJ and it's a finely cut leaf.

 

[Cane2theLeft]

If the shops by you are anything like the ones here, the kratom you get is probably overpriced bullshit - there is a decent chance what you're getting is just an inferior product but there's no way we could know if that's the case. Something else to consider is that no kratom dose is going to feel exactly like oxy or codeine - you MIGHT be able to get somewhat close with the right dose, but if you're expecting too much, you're just going to be disappointed. Kratom is a decent drug but it's not oxy.

The strongest effects from kratom can generally be found in a combination of a full-spectrum extract (most '15x' are just more mitragynine) combined with plain leaf products. Some vendors actually sell these combinations pre-mixed and others just sell them separately and you'd need to find the right combination yourself.

If you're going to stick to what you can find locally, there's a good chance you'll be disappointed. Unfortunately, given the variability in strength that jeckel mentioned, there's no way we can give you precise dosing information.

 

[WorldWarMe]

So would ingesting 20 grams at once be safe? Or would the high increase dramatically from 10 grams to 15 grams?

 

[highhooked]

I just want to say i recommend finding a quality vendor and order online. Most of the headshop shit is wack.

 

[WorldWarMe]

What about these <snip> branded Kratoms? The headshop I go to has the <snip> extract and I can also get the <snip> extract, are they any good?

 

[Cane2theLeft]

^ sorry but we don't allow brand names that when googled direct to vendors (such as their manufacturer's website) - it's too close to advertising and we also don't allow product reviews in here.