Opioids Kratom Cross Tolerance / Blocking Effect

[cnnka]

Hello i have a 10-15g a day kratom habit i take it only at nights , last weeks i also got a pure mitrargynine extract and i scale up the dosage to about 10-12g kratom plus around 150-170mg of mitrargynine extract.
Tonight my mitrargynine extract is gone and i dosed 10g only of kratom i only use red vein , as you can imagine i feel the effects of kratom but very lightly but i can still feel it not so much but okayish.
Does kratom have a cross tolerance with other opiates? i have some poppy pods as i know from the source i got them theyre good potent enough , i read some reviews on reddit that some guys cant feel theyre poppies or even oxy from kratom ,
tommorow night i plan to take them with a friend of mine and i wanna ask am i gonna feel anything or get good effects from them?
Does kratom have a cross tolerance with other opiates ? some guys call it natures subs , i dont wanna waste the pods so if i abstain 24 hours form kratom would i feel the pods and have a good time or is it better to wait it out 2-3 days before dosing pods
it would be kinda hard to skip the kratom for 2-3 days but i have some benzos on hand.
Guys tell me your expiriences with kratom and cross tolerance or blocking effects

 

[Tsimmons850]

Oh ya!! I am dealing with that right now. I was taking a vary of ranges of kratom power to 7 -oh extract.it blocks my oxy upward of 100 mg with only keep the withdrawals away. It usually takes about a week and you will not waste it.

 

[cnnka]

Oh ya!! I am dealing with that right now. I was taking a vary of ranges of kratom power to 7 -oh extract.it blocks my oxy upward of 100 mg with only keep the withdrawals away. It usually takes about a week and you will not waste it.

Damn that’s so frustrating so my pods probably won’t have an effect and I must abstain around a week from kratom ??! That’s slippery slope, I mean I use it nightly and want the pods to have a good recreational time fuck!! I’m gonna wait probably or take benzos for a week but I don’t like this at all at least I would hope 24-48 hours with kratom out of my system they would work but no

 

[vacuole]

As far as cross tolerance with other opioid, I'll share my experience when I broke my hip while walking my dog last year (he lunged out all of a sudden and I was holding on to the leash and did a nasty fall on the pavement). I was a daily kratom user at the time, and when they gave me pain meds at the hospital -- iv Dilaudid, some other one i can't remember -- it had very little effect on my pain, much less making me feel comfortable lying in that hospital bed unable to move. I didn't realize the cross tolerance at the time so I was confused, but thankfully they gave me a benzo every once in a while and that helped calm me down. I thought I could just take their opioid at the hospital and not kratom, but because I took it every day it largely canceled out the painkilling and relief aspects of the opioids I was administered. This is just my personal experience.

 

[cnnka]

As far as cross tolerance with other opioid, I'll share my experience when I broke my hip while walking my dog last year (he lunged out all of a sudden and I was holding on to the leash and did a nasty fall on the pavement). I was a daily kratom user at the time, and when they gave me pain meds at the hospital -- iv Dilaudid, some other one i can't remember -- it had very little effect on my pain, much less making me feel comfortable lying in that hospital bed unable to move. I didn't realize the cross tolerance at the time so I was confused, but thankfully they gave me a benzo every once in a while and that helped calm me down. I thought I could just take their opioid at the hospital and not kratom, but because I took it every day it largely canceled out the painkilling and relief aspects of the opioids I was administered. This is just my personal experience.

It seems like kratom had very high binding affinity or blocking effects not feeling dialudid from kratom is crazy enough , on the other hand is good cause it can keep up away from harder opioids .
I’ve abstained 48 hours from kratom and yesterday I’ve made a tea with 7g poppy I’ve felt something but nowhere near what I expected and I didn’t expect much at all. Maybe the batch I have was weak maybe kratom tolerance who knows ?
I can’t decide if today I’m gonna make a 10-15g tea or continue with my kratom. You know I like on peaceful Saturdays to dose one in the morning and be good all day whereas with kratom I must keep redosing if I want the effect last all day

 

[chippermonk]

As far as cross tolerance with other opioid, I'll share my experience when I broke my hip while walking my dog last year (he lunged out all of a sudden and I was holding on to the leash and did a nasty fall on the pavement). I was a daily kratom user at the time, and when they gave me pain meds at the hospital -- iv Dilaudid, some other one i can't remember -- it had very little effect on my pain, much less making me feel comfortable lying in that hospital bed unable to move. I didn't realize the cross tolerance at the time so I was confused, but thankfully they gave me a benzo every once in a while and that helped calm me down. I thought I could just take their opioid at the hospital and not kratom, but because I took it every day it largely canceled out the painkilling and relief aspects of the opioids I was administered. This is just my personal experience.

That's interesting ( and sucked for you). What sort of dose of kratom were you in leading up to that?