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Kratom + Blue Lotus + Red Poppy - First Combo - Surprisingly potent

flegmato

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Surprisingly potent (kratom + blue lotus + red poppy)

This is not intended to be an in depth report, just a brief overview as there's not really much to say other than that I was surprised by the potency.

7g Mitragyna Speciosa, Rifat strain (sold by vendor as "super kratom" or "premium kratom")
0.5g Blue Lotus flower resin 15x extract
3 - 4g red poppy flowers

I have experimented with all of these individually a fair bit, and find them to be generally mild most of the time but usually pleasant. Someone suggested that I try them in combination as that had worked well for them. This did not seem unreasonable, so I decided to give it a go. My tolerance for opiates is low. I put them in a pot with 500ml distilled water and cooked the water down enough to get down in a couple gulps. After cooling, I forced the brew down (hideous flavor).

First alerts within t+5min, and by t+20min a surprisingly strong feeling of euphoria began to flood over me. This was already much stronger than I had expected. At t+30min I wrote this to a friend: "I love everyone and I love everything and I can feel the love flowing through my body." The euphoria grew steadily until about t+45min where it peaked out. I layed down in bed with a cover over me and was ovewhelmed (in the best way). For the next 45 minutes it stayed at roughly this level, coming on and off to some degree in little waves. Each mini-peak would bring feel like a "rush" when it came on as I could feel the increased euphoria flood over me. At about T+1hr I took two hits of nitrous, which brought out that rushing euphoria x100. I took a couple more hits of nitrous over the next half hour, both very nice. By t+1:30 the peak was obviously ending, but euphoria was still strong. At t+2:30 i started to come down more signifcantly. t+3:30 I was pretty much down, baseline by t+4:00. After that I had a nasty little headache that lasted until I took a nap. This was yesterday, today I feel fine.

I was definitely shocked by the potency of these when used in combination, any of them alone has just a fraction of the strength, but I was certainly not disappointed in the slightest.
 
Do you have much experience with kratom by itself? I've recently taken an interest in this plant. What preparations seem to work best for you? If you have a bit of experience with kratom, can you comment on if the other two herbs made any noticable differences?
 
I like kratom quite a bit by itself. It feels stimulating and opiating/sedating at the same time, which is nice in a lot of ways. I think a lot of the reason people have bad luck with kratom is they aim way too high with dosage right off the bat -- in my experience you can only push the dosage so high before it just becomes more uncomfortable instead of getting you higher. Doing a full oz is a waste and will make you feel less than spectacular, whereas 6 - 7 g rifat strain or 8 - 10 grams regular will have you feeling pretty nice. The best method of ingestion is definitely to put it in a good amount of water and cook it down, stirring frequently, until you have a small amount of thick dark liquid. The addition of the other two herbs pushed this far beyond the experience I've had with any one of them alone, kratom included.
 
Very nice report on some more uncommon substances.

I was planning on getting some Blue Lotus very soon, and it sounds like Kratom might be a benefit to the experience as well if used correctly as you stated above
 
does anyone else think kratom smells kinda like lipton tea?

i tried some today and it's quite nice. 6.25 grams using the tea method. quite similar to most reports, stimulating, with a prescription pain med kind of body high. it's not incredibly strong, but it's unmistakable.

good stuff.
 
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I have not yet tried Kratom, but I am very interested. I have tried Blue Lotus (both dried flowers in tea and as a smoke, and resin extract in tea and as a smoke), and it is an incredible herb. Its relaxing and dreamy qualities are very unique, and I love meditating on the history of the herb's usage while I'm on it. It makes it almost seem like a psychedelic in nature.
 
i have a question about Kratom. currently, i probably take about 10 7.5 - 10 mg hydros a week, whenever i can get them. it takes about 3 of them to get me a GOOD buzz. will my opiate tolerance be too high for Kratom?
 
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