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Kratom, Blue lily, and Wild dagga

Mholtb

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I've been lurking around here for a couple months now, and I finally decided to start posting.

I have a mixture of those three. I am wondering what would be the right dose, I have 1 ounce, i was thinking about 5-8 grams, but that seems like a lot to me. Thanks in advance! =D
 
each one is going to depend on several factors, ie, your body size and tolerance, the types (strains) of each plant you listed etc...

but in general, kratom for me as a person with little opiate tolerance becomes enjoyable starting at the 4-5 gr mark. I am a fan of the super green and super indo varieties. People with tolerances orwho happen to be somehwat hardheaded with their dosages need up to 20 gr though. Personally that amount would send me into a vomit session, but everyone is different.

blue lilly can be enjoyed in a couple different ways. Smoking and making a tea are probably the most common. I enjoy both ways and often will combine smoking with drinking the tea to achieve greater effects. Blue lily is a bit more subtle than kratom though. Some people have trouble experiencing the effects with blue lilly due to this. A way around that might be to work with an extract. I've sampled many of them, from 5x-100x, as well as having made my own extract using everclear. To date the 100x and my own extract were the most enjoyable, with the homemade extract actually rivaling decent grade middies for weed in effects. The one thing about blue lily that I love the most tho is its ability to combine and potentiate other things. People use it to good effect to add some kick to their opiate/kratom experiences, but my favorite thing to combine it with is good old weed. It really makes weed stronger and the effects become so much like how my first great weed experiences were...more magical, more cevs, a nice little relaxed body feeling...good stuff. Lastly, blue lily is amazing when steeped in wine for about 1-2 weeks and then filtered out and drunk. The blue lily synergizes with the wine and brings out what I call wine's psychedelic side. And again, add some weed to that experience and it is like the holy trinity of getting stunk and droned.

wild dagga is definitely active, and I personally enjoy it, but it is prob the most subtle of the three you listed. Depending on what part of the plant you have, the potency varies. In my experience the best part of the plant to work with is the red or orange flowers. The buzz they give me is nice, short lived, and somewhat reminiscent of a cross between weed and tobacco. I like a nice fat joint of it from time to time, and it mixes well as a joint with the blue lily too. People make tea out of this one too, but in my opinion it tastes foul. People also use the leaves from this plant to smoke and make tea, but in my experience the leaves taste really bad and make working with them a lot less enjoyable than using the flower heads.

that's all i can think of before my coffee this morning...

good luck :)
 
Haha, thanks for the reply, I was thinking about making a tea, since the three are all mixed together and separating them wouldn't even be worth it. Would the dagga work well with tea? Also, I didn't know blue lotus was so strong. I might look into getting 100x extract.
 
Mholtb: what ratio is the mix? kratom is active at dosages much lower than blue lotus or wild dagga. also, what's the consistency of your product? if it's a fine powder i would just toss and wash it instead of making a tea. toss and wash being... use a tablespoon or some such to put the powder in your mouth (careful not to breathe! you'll inhale powder and cough your ass off!), then chase with a beverage of choice, repeat as necessary to reach your desired dose.

as for dosage, you'll need to know what the ratio of the mix is (as per my first question). a dosage equivalent to ~5-8gm of kratom would be sufficient probably, so a bit more than your original estimate of 5-8gm of the entire mixture would probably be needed... again, depending on the ratios of the plants.

and now a little off topic from the OP but not from the title: :)

blue lotus is really subtle... i've never had success with the whole flower. however, i did have a fairly strong resin extract from a great vendor. putting a dollop of the extract on top of a bowl of weed changed the marijuana experience favorably. made it more lucid and almost visual.

wild dagga needs to be really fresh to produce much of an effect at all. its best to find a vendor that sells the stuff right after its harvested. just the red flowers is the best thing to use. i smoked the stuff. wild dagga also mixes favorably with weed. the three together is even better.

i have never mixed kratom with dagga or blue lotus, but it should be enjoyable.
 
Im not really sure of the ratio. Also it is not a powder, its mostly crushed leaves. I have no opiate tolerance, I've never tried any opiates but reading about all these plants and then mixing them together sounded like a really good idea to me. =D
 
ah. well the tea method might be ideal then. the way i would do it would be to start with ~7g, then work up from there if that's not enough. ~9.5g would be a good step after that, and if that's still not enough then use the last ~11.5g. and if ~7g is enough, you've got four doses. :) make sure to not dose on consecutive days (probably 3 or 4 days between trials would be best) in order to avoid tolerance. and enjoy!
 
Just out of curiosity, was that mixture of herbs sold that way, or is that a concoction you threw together yourself?
 
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