Kratom??????? Any advice?

[gooduranfan]

I bought some Kratom today from a local head shop. I didn't buy much since I have never taken it before and I am extremely cautious of taking new things. I have never taken any drugs recreationally in my life. I drink a few beers a week, that's about it. I do however have a script of pain meds that I have been on for years for knee pain and ovarian cysts. If I get oxy's, I start off with an initial dose of about 7.5 mg's and then take 5 mg's every 4 to 5 hours (if I have hydro's, I start off initially with about 15 mg's and then take 12.5 mg's every 4 to 5 hours). I do use them for pain, but I am also aware of the slight euphoric feeling it gives. According to some people I know that take opiates recreationally and also the people at the head shop, I am taking a fairly low dose considering what "most" people take. I have been considering getting off the scripts and trying Kratom. But I am so nervous as to how it's going to make me feel or how much to take. I want my pain to be dealt with but I would like to still get a slight euphoric feeling. In reading a lot on this, I have noticed people saying that they are looking for an "intense" high or they WANT to take so much that they "nod" of or makes them a little sleepy. I have never gotten that feeling from any pain med I've taken (the extreme HIGH or super sedating feeling) and that's not what I'm looking for with Kratom. I bought 2 small pouches of capsules: 1 of Maeng Da, 10 capsules equaling 4 grams for all 10 capsules, and 1 of Green Malay, 10 capsules equaling 4 grams total). I just don't know how much to take and of what. Do I take 1 capsule of each? I would rather under do it than overdo it and feel sick or weird. Any suggestions? Thanks so much for listening to me ramble on and on.

 

[SiCc]

There are many factors and different kinds of kratom that they all feel different determining dosage and alkolaids. I've used opiates to "nod" and have never nodded with kratom although my tolerance is high. IME I compare ten grams of bali kratom to maybe 2 vicodin. I mainly use it for energy and opiate withdrawal. Stick to your synthetic pills for nodding if that's what u seek and buy from online vendors. Head shops sit on the product if it doesn't sell and alkaloids die off over time.

 

[SiCc]

And the only way u get sick is if your eattoo much. Can't overdose and its very bitter. I'd advise mixing with yogurt as kratom is a fiber and will go right through you. Good luck

 

[Seattle_Stranger]

DON'T BUY KRATOM FROM HEADSHOPS!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!

NOTHING is going to make it get outlawed quicker. Buy it online in bulk, and not extracts. Headshop products are crap, falsely advertised as something to get fucked up on, come from poor sources, are way overpriced and potentially impure.

We don't know enough about your weight, diet, health, age or opioid tolerance to really give an accurate dose recommendation. I'd start by taking 5 or 6 of the capsules and then eating a meal afterwards, see where you're at an hour later. If you don't feel relief, take two more, wait, see where you're at, take more if no relief, etc.. You will find your dose. The worst that can happen if you take too much is you get nauseous and you throw it up, no big deal.

Next time, buy it online as regular bulk powdered leaf, nothing fancy. The best way to take it is weigh out your dose, mix it well into orange juice, and chug. It's gross but it's the most cost-effective and also works best this way, capsules can take too long to have a good cumulative effect. You kinda want it all to hit you all at once for the best effect, not spread out. It is totally fine to use capsules though, I have a capsule machine and I occasionally use size "000" caps to pack little ~1g kratom nibs to hand out to friends.

Welcome to Bluelight and the wonderful world of kratom.

 

[Jagdfeld]

As others have mentioned, yogurt is a great idea. However, I have actually been encapsulating my own doses and find it to be a better way of pinpointing exactly how much you're taking, and less messy, in my experience. Gel capsules are very cheap, and you can find them at a local vitamin store.

Important to note that 90% of kratom found at headshops is of very low quality. If you find yourself unimpressed with what you have, see if your shop carries Kratom Therapy. It's the best brand I've found that I can pick up in person. Also, stick with one strain. Each strain gives more specific effects. As far as dosages go, it is said to vary by strain and lower dosages are generally more stimulating vs higher dosages which are generally more sedating/pain relieving. IME, I take anywhere between 6-10 grams and results are decent enough.

 

[SiCc]

1-5 grams is more stimulating IME. When I take up to ten depending on the vein of kratom I get the wobbly eyes. Most people advise making tea but true kratom users know alkoloids die off in heat so caspulate it or toss and wash. If not that I mix in iced tea with honey and lemon shake and chug. But like I said you will be disappointed if your trying to (nod) off kratom powder especially from a head shop. I refridgerate my kratom as well. I advise buying a sample package from a vendor and find what strain/vein of leaf works best for you. Do your research on trustful vendors before buying.