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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards | negrogesic

Kratom Kratom after some beers

Keif' Richards said:
Kratom is an Opioid. More specifically, Kratom is a plant that contains alkaloids that act as Opioid Receptor Agonists in the human body. I don't know how versed you are, but in short, everything that you know about Heroin or Morphine or Fentanyl applies analogously to the usage of Kratom. People use Kratom for its Opioid alkaloids. The most-well-known and studied of these is Mitragynine and its metabolites like 7-Hydroxymytragynine.

This would have made a lot more sense to people who grew up in a world where Codeine was still quite common as an OTC medicine. I understand Codeine is still used extensively in some places, but in the United States, Codeine has been a controlled substance since, I believe, the Harrison Act of 1914. In practically everywhere else around the world, it would have been and still may be common to get stuff like Co-Codamol or other brands containing Acetaminophen and a small amount of Codeine. It would have been far more common for a household to have a Codeine product just sitting around as they might Dextromethorphan (DXM) cough syrup.

In that era, there were very few people who died from taking too much Co-Codamol. It was generally pretty safe and the Acetaminophen was a soft deterrent toward abuse. Now, that doesn't mean that, a guy, after a night of heavy drinking, let's say 10 drinks or more over the course of an evening, who maybe takes a Benzodiazepine for one reason or another at the bar, wanders home and takes some Co-Codamol to top himself off wouldn't die. ]

In short, weaker Opioids are generally pretty safe, but that doesn't mean they can't be a "straw breaking the camel's" back for an unsuspecting user. I believe that this is probably, totally possible with Kratom, just as it would be with something like Codeine tablets. It's good to maintain some caution.
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So kratom IS a opioid after all ? Cause saying that on reddit would get me banned literally 😂
Thanks for the information , i hope kratom stays legal .
 
Kizaru said:
So kratom IS a opioid after all ? Cause saying that on reddit would get me banned literally 😂
Thanks for the information , i hope kratom stays legal .
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Yes, it absolutely is an opioid, but it's also a lot more than just that. It's many things.

Yeah, that kratom subreddit is stupid. They're in denial that they're using an addictive drug. ItS NaTuRaL!!!! :facepalm:

Same thing with the Kava subreddit. If you call it a drug they ban your ass. Stupid.
 
Snafu in the Void said:
Yes, it absolutely is an opioid, but it's also a lot more than just that. It's many things.

Yeah, that kratom subreddit is stupid. They're in denial that they're using an addictive drug. ItS NaTuRaL!!!! :facepalm:

Same thing with the Kava subreddit. If you call it a drug they ban your ass. Stupid.
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Yeah i don't use reddit anymore tbh . I am glad i found bluelight . I have always known BL but never subscribed and i have no clue why lmao .
You should check out adhd sub on reddit . One time i had a question about dexamphetamine , i get that prescribed for my add but with side effects ,so i tried snorting one time and felt less jitterly . So i asked why this was and i got answers like that my psychiatrist should call the police etc and got a permaban on that sub also . Then you read some other nutjob taking 60mg of adderal because of "high tolerance" no nothing wrong with that , but my 5 mg snortage was a real case ... Anyway Thanks for the info !
 
Snafu in the Void said:
Yes, it absolutely is an opioid, but it's also a lot more than just that. It's many things.

Yeah, that kratom subreddit is stupid. They're in denial that they're using an addictive drug. ItS NaTuRaL!!!! :facepalm:

Same thing with the Kava subreddit. If you call it a drug they ban your ass. Stupid.
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Yes anyone who bashes kratom, like certain states governments, and then encourage the their people to use oxy or vicadin etc cause they are fda approved is a f@cktard.

Kratoms been around for over 20k years and pharma companies in the US making billions in profit a year have been around for 100 years if that.


Dont be a sheep.


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Dead Machination said:
I have found drinking alcohol while on kratom to produce extreme nausea. It's thoroughly unenjoyable, to me. If I don't get sick immediately, I get really tired, and just get sick in the morning instead.

Everybody's different though.
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For me drinking a maximum of 1 beer with kratom is doable (not like able) but anything more and it just sucks . Alcohol and opioides don't go together , although sometimes when i snort suboxone i can get this having a nice desperado moment thingy .
 
Like kratom and a couple beers? Totally fine. Kratom and getting shitfaced? Nooo that is recipe for all night vomiting. Happened to my dad while we were camping. He puked all over my expensive memory foam mattress cover. I was so pissed I just left in the middle of the night. Though looking back I guess I probably shouldn't have given him all that kratom heh.....
 
Snafu in the Void said:
Yes, it absolutely is an opioid, but it's also a lot more than just that. It's many things.

Yeah, that kratom subreddit is stupid. They're in denial that they're using an addictive drug. ItS NaTuRaL!!!! :facepalm:

Same thing with the Kava subreddit. If you call it a drug they ban your ass. Stupid.
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Yeah I was on a Kratom forum a long time ago and I got banned for saying 'high' I guess you're supposed to say something stupid like 'it had a nice aroma'
 
Pickledlemons said:
Like kratom and a couple beers? Totally fine. Kratom and getting shitfaced? Nooo that is recipe for all night vomiting. Happened to my dad while we were camping. He puked all over my expensive memory foam mattress cover. I was so pissed I just left in the middle of the night. Though looking back I guess I probably shouldn't have given him all that kratom heh.....
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I can imagine you just leaving in the middle of the night 😅
 
Pickledlemons said:
Yeah I was on a Kratom forum a long time ago and I got banned for saying 'high' I guess you're supposed to say something stupid like 'it had a nice aroma'
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Yeah they expect you to use obfuscating terminology, as if they were selling bath salts, but they also believe it's just a harmless plant.

I got banned from the Kava subreddit for having the gall to post a question about an extract... apparently it's sacrilegious to their beliefs.

In a more general sense, people who think "natural" drugs are inherently better or safer than "synthetic" drugs annoy the shit out of me.
 
Snafu in the Void said:
Yeah they expect you to use obfuscating terminology, as if they were selling bath salts, but they also believe it's just a harmless plant.

I got banned from the Kava subreddit for having the gall to post a question about an extract... apparently it's sacrilegious to their beliefs.

In a more general sense, people who think "natural" drugs are inherently better or safer than "synthetic" drugs annoy the shit out of me.
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Yeah. My old doctor when we first met thought I was one of those people cause I was taking Kratom and Kava. Then I'm like no no no no, makes no difference to me. He says "Yeah, heroins plenty natural, isn't it?" and we had a good laugh.

My mom is one of those people. When I switched from suboxone to Kratom she starting crying, like tears of joy, just cause it was a plant. Then when I switched back she wasn't too happy. Like, there's plenty of natural poisons, everything thats synthetic has ingredients than originally came from something natural. The whole thing just doesn't make any sense.
 
not really, unless it’s a small amount. i hate the mood swings mixing booze & kratom give me and it usually ends up being dysphoric and nauseating, to say the least. i enjoy mixing my gabapentin with just a little alcohol on occasion, but again, it sometimes backfires and takes away the feel-good ‘floaty’ aspect of the neurontin.

wouldn’t personally recommend, but to each their own! everyone has their own favorite mixtures of cocktails and drugs!
 
Terrible combination. Given me some of the worst hangovers, and strangest colored vomits I've ever had.
 
Works alright for me. Generally prefer a bit of extract in the afternoon followed up by couple beers. Then an evening of heavy drinking bun few spliff too, I love it...

But few beers then chunk extract is nice too, maybe watching a film with some takeaway and a bottle of wine.

Sorry what was the question again?

Halle Berry in the Flintstones movie? Yeah, definitely. Makes the whole film if you ask me...
 
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