(Kratom/7.5g) - First Time - pleasantly surprised

[Davium]

Today i tried kratom for the first time out of desperation because i am in a good deal of pain.

A little background on me.. I am a recovering heroin addict. Ive only been clean 4 months this time around and that was with the assistance of suboxone. I recently tapered myself off of the subs, i think today is day 6 of no medication.

I havent been feeling great due to withdrawals. They arent terrible at this point, just some insomnia and irritability. However, what is worse than the withdrawals is i have developed horrible chest pain over the last few days. Every time i breath in deeply i feel like my chest is being beaten with a hammer. Went to the doc and have been diagnosed with pleurisy. And it is awful.

The pain was so bad i was really contemplating picking up some dope or even getting a suboxone refill. Instead i decided to give kratom a try.

I got my hands on some maeng da kratom and started off with 4g on an empty stomach. I didnt want to overdue it since i didnt know if i would have any negative side effects. About 10 minutes later i decided to take 1 more gram.

I went to pick up lunch right after and was gone about 20 minutes. I started to feel something during that time, i just wasnt sure if it was a placebo effect or not. 15 minutes or so later i definitely started feeling more mellowed out and more sociable. It was a very mild euphoria, but it was pretty enjoyable.

One hour after dosing i took 3 more grams. Almost immediately after i swallowed it i had a bit of an "oh shit" moment. The effects i was feeling before became considerably more intense. I was worried i may have over done it and that extra 3g might kick my butt in the next hour.

It ended up being a good experience, though. I had a good feeling of euphoria.. comparable to a small opiate dose but somehow different. I wasnt nodding and itchy, it was a decent head buzz and a nice relaxation feeling. The come down was nice as well. I actually felt really energized. Which was strange because most experiences i had read said the order was usually reversed. (Energized first leading into a sedative effect)

So, overall i surprisingly enjoyed it a lot. However, the main reason i tried it was to relieve pain...and it really did very little, if anything, for the pain.

Ive read maeng da is not the best for pain relief, but unfortunately that was all i had available.

Also, i feel like i should add that i can definitely see this as potentially addictive for a person like myself. So, user beware.

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[Xorkoth]

Thanks for sharing. Yeah watch out, kratom hits the mu opiate receptor which is the big one that strong opiates hit. I got addicted to opiates for 10 years starting with kratom... the withdrawals are no joke, they're really similar to other opiates but rather than feeling like I have the flu and being nauseous, the restless legs are like 20 times stronger, it's so bad my entire body gets restless, especially my arms and legs. The extreme restlessness is my least favorite part of opiate withdrawal because it makes sleep impossible and it's so uncomfortable. Anyway, just be careful.

 

[Neithman]

Thanks for sharing. Yeah watch out, kratom hits the mu opiate receptor which is the big one that strong opiates hit. I got addicted to opiates for 10 years starting with kratom... the withdrawals are no joke, they're really similar to other opiates but rather than feeling like I have the flu and being nauseous, the restless legs are like 20 times stronger, it's so bad my entire body gets restless, especially my arms and legs. The extreme restlessness is my least favorite part of opiate withdrawal because it makes sleep impossible and it's so uncomfortable. Anyway, just be careful.

cardio exercise helps big time for the restlessness you get during kratom withdrawal,you will find a comfortable position to sleep very fast instead of rolling around for 1 hour in the bed.
Also kratom withdrawal only lasts 3-5 days,but i do tolerance breaks every month.
The best way to avoid withdrawals is to use infrequently,like this it will take years till you really get withdrawals that are more severe than a little bit annoying.
Btw do you mean restless legs like the real restless leg syndrome where your legs are pulsating,or you just mean that cant get comfortable in bed and every position feels like its wrong.
I only experienced the last one,but i usually can sleep after 1-2 hours,although the sleep is not that deep

 

[Xorkoth]

I mean real restless legs, I experienced it very badly as a child for a long time, so I'm susceptible. it's a pulsing, maddening energy that you absolutely cannot ignore, it goes far beyond discomfort. I wouldn't be able to sleep a wink all night, I'd be crying in frustration, punching my legs as hard as I could sometimes until they went numb so I could get 60 seconds of blessed relief. Having it in the arms and legs and the whole body is like fucking hell to me.

 

[Keif' Richards]

I never had any luck with Kratom, which is a shame because I'd love to be involved with some kind of legal Opioid. Alas, thanks for the Trip Report