Kratom, 1st time user. Any advice or suggestions?

[jennie76]

Hello,

I purchased some Kratom powder online & I plan to give it a try this weekend. I got a couple different strains, so I can experience the difference in them. That was also suggested in one of the older threads I read called, The Guide To Buying Kratom. There was a lot of great info there but I still feel I need to lean a little more. Wondering of anyone has any advice, ideas, suggestions or experiences to share that may help me with this. I still haven't figured out how I plan to ingest it. I'm leaning toward toss & wash, but not completely sure. I do have a opiate tolerance so I'm not even sure how much to use. I plan to weight it out on a digital scale & dose it that way, by grams. I figure I will start off low & I can always add, but you can never take away once you have used it. I don't want to get sick off of it & have a rotten weekend. If anyone has any input I would be happy to hear it.

Thanks!
Jen

 

[jennie76]

Wow... Not a word from anyone...

 

[VitamaN]

I can't wait to try this stuff! I'm sorry you haven't gotten any good advice.

 

[Bagseed]

hello there

well this is a message board, and sometimes, threads get overlooked...

as for your questions, I always use toss'n'wash, but many other people find it to be disgusting. I prefer it, because, if you do it right, you have all the stuff down in one gulp.

to get the maximum of effects, you should take it on an empty stomach, 3-4 hours w/o food... when it starts to kick in, I always eat something, this seems to bring it on even faster and stronger, but that could very well be placebo, or because of the rewarding effects of eating (I love food )

regarding dose and tolerance... what opioids do you take take, and how much of them? I have no tolerance and 1-2 teaspoons of high quality gets me pretty good. if you only use low-potency stuff (codeine, tramadol, etc) I think you should be fine with 2-3 teaspoons. you can also always take more, if you're not satisfied, but don't get too excited; Kratom is a nice drug, but not very intense, even high doses (4-5 teaspoons for me) didn't get me really nodding, I had to combine it with cannabis to get that really...

hope this post was helpful to you

 

[jennie76]

hello there

well this is a message board, and sometimes, threads get overlooked...

as for your questions, I always use toss'n'wash, but many other people find it to be disgusting. I prefer it, because, if you do it right, you have all the stuff down in one gulp.

to get the maximum of effects, you should take it on an empty stomach, 3-4 hours w/o food... when it starts to kick in, I always eat something, this seems to bring it on even faster and stronger, but that could very well be placebo, or because of the rewarding effects of eating (I love food )

regarding dose and tolerance... what opioids do you take take, and how much of them? I have no tolerance and 1-2 teaspoons of high quality gets me pretty good. if you only use low-potency stuff (codeine, tramadol, etc) I think you should be fine with 2-3 teaspoons. you can also always take more, if you're not satisfied, but don't get too excited; Kratom is a nice drug, but not very intense, even high doses (4-5 teaspoons for me) didn't get me really nodding, I had to combine it with cannabis to get that really...

hope this post was helpful to you

Hi,
thanks so much for your responses!

I take Oxycodone 20mg 1 to 2 every 4 hours, so a decent tolerance. I plan to try the toss & wash & just do it like I would a goody powder. I had never heard that about adding cannabis to it. Thanks for that tip!

Yea, your info was very helpful, so thank you Bagseed!

Jen

 

[Bagseed]

^hm do you use that much of oxycodone daily or occasionally? if it's daily dose, then you might not feel much from the Kratom at all, but it will probably still be helpful for potentiating your dose or even easing withdrawals.

 

[VitamaN]

I have a high tolerance for opes , as in can't even get really high on hydrocodone ...so ill be dosing pretty high and keeping my expectations pretty low . I'm glad someone answered this thread

 

[Bagseed]

^ yeah if you have a tolerance, you'll need more... but I'd still be rather conservative with the first doses. Kratoms effects are not well understood, and there might be other actions involved than opioid agonism. 4 teaspoons initially might be fine, but I'd be cautious because of possible side effects (mainly nausea).

glad I can help.

 

[jennie76]

Yea thank you for the help! That is a daily dose but my intake is lower at the end of the prescription, so my tolerance should be lower. I will try it then. I hear its great for withdraws. Thanks again!


Jen