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kratom - 1st time - euphoria!

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malfunkshun

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I learned about kratom in the 'other drugs' section on the bluelight forums. Needless to say, I was VERY intrigued and resolved to try it for myself. I was a little worried however, as some of the more experienced opiate users here who had tried kratom reported that it had no effects. I'm a semi-experienced opiate user and have a moderate tolerance to hydrocodone and tramadol, and was hoping that I wouldn't have a cross tolerance for kratom. So, upon getting home and checking my mail, and seeing a nice 4 oz package of kratom in my mailbox, I proceeded to boil up some tea and find out.

I measured up about 14 grams of dried kratom leaf, enough I figured for two doses... one for me and one for my brother. I brought it to a boil in about half a liter of water, with a liberal dose of lemon juice (I heard that this will preserve the metabolites that might otherwise be rendered inactive by boiling). I boiled this down to about one tenth of the original amount and poured it through a coffee filter into a glass, squeezing the leaves to get most of the moisture out. I then put these leaves back into the pot, added another half liter of water, and repeated the entire process.

When it was finished, I poured the tea into two equal cups and drank my share (my brother wasn't home from work yet). After about 20 minutes, I began to feel something, kind of like a mild caffeine buzz. Sort of speedy and more alert. By this time, my brother had gotten home, and he downed his. After about ten more minutes (30 in all) I reported to my brother that I was definitely starting to feel something good. Soon after this my brother also started feeling something.

I'm very happy to report that my tolerance for opiates didn't negate the effects of the kratom. It has been about an hour since I drank my dose, and my brother and I are immensely enjoying the buzz. This stuff definitely IS comparable to a hydrocodone-like euphoric high. I am extremely pleased with the results and I think I've found my new favorite high, and its legal too! Lets just hope it stays that way ;)
 
Nice report. I haven't heard too many great things about this stuff... it's good to finally hear a different opinion.

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I recently discovered Kratom. It is amazing. It's also much more powerful than I had expected. My first time, I made tea with about 6.25g of powdered Kratom leaves. It was so strong I could barely move, and I felt great. I've noticed that adding lime juice to the tea makes it taste considerably better (a lot of lime juice).
 
just do a google search for kratom, you'll find some online vendors. and yes, in the US, its legal
 
I just got some powdered kratom leaf, it was being sold as the more potent "super kratom" or whatever. It said 6 grams was a "strong dose".

Well I was just going to put the powder into capsules, which I did for maybe 4 capsules and just ate it that way. Then I decided its too much of a pain and too many capsules, so I just put some water and lemon juice in the microwave, heated it up (not boiling) and just dumped some powder into the cup and swished it around and let it sit for a short time.

Started to drink what was in the cup, got maybe half way through, and damn I was already too "floored" with effects and didnt drink the rest. I didnt measure out exactly what I took but i'm thinking just 3.5-4 grams (out of a 6.1g baggie).

Yes it was exactly like an opiate, I actually was almost dosing off, sorta sleepy from the dose I took. I'd say it felt somewhere inbetween hydrocodone and oxycodone. I'm not big on opiates and have no tolerance. Very nice :)
 
I want to try some of this. It sounds like a very complex and rewarding ethnobotanical. Not something I would be inclined to use daily, but certainly something that I would want to explore. I feel like I am losing out with regard to the diversity of the compounds I have explored. I mean it is not like I want to study this plant, I just want to sample some to test its effects.
 
So how long before this rotten, dishonest, heavy-handed, down your throat U.S. government...er...I mean fair, compasionate government who is only looking out for your best interest, bans Kratom?
 
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a couple of things i've found out about Kratom since I received my shipment.

1. You can't just re-dose on this stuff when you come down. I tried dosing 4 hours after my first dose, and no effect. I tried at 6 hours... no effect. I tried at 8 hours... slight effects. My brother dosed again 12 hours after an initial dose and managed to get off again. Something about this stuff... you have to wait for it to get out of your system before you can get off on it again. You're wasting it if you try to dose any sooner than 8 hours after your initial dose.

2. It DEFEINITELY will make you sick. The first dose my brother and I shared was from 14 grams, boiled twice. Nice effects. I boiled the rest of the 4 ounces all at once, 3 times to get as much as I could out of what I had. I then reduced the whole thing down to about a quart and a half. My brother took another regular dose (it being MUCH stronger this time) and got pretty sick. So, if you make a stronger batch than you're used to, be sure to take less than your usual amount or you might be sorry :\

I have another batch ordered, and I'm gonna try mixing blue lotus extract with it like I read somewhere else on these forums... somebody had said that the effects were 10X as good.
 
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