Phil.McKeer
Bluelighter
I decided to buy some kratom before the possible ban. I never used it before; I recently came off a year-long subutex taper, which I was using to help me get off of heroin, which I was smoking for two years on an every day basis causing my opioid tolerance to likely still be high now. With that in mind, I started off with 6 grams of Red Vein Borneo powdered leaf, and added another 4 grams about an hour later. The following write up has been written after the fact:
+0: I weigh out 6g's of kratom powder. Wow, a level teaspoon really is 3g, whodathunkit. I tried to go for the toss and wash method but missed the back of my tongue and coated my entire mouth and teeth. This powder has a terrible hydrophobic chalky consistency. Ugh. This better be worth it.
+20: I detect the come-up. Very subtle, barely noticeable. Probably as noticeable as the come-up of slamming a caffeinated drink really quick.
+40: Phil, meet kratom. Kratom, meet Phil. So, at first I thought it wasn't working, until I began to focus on everything. It's super subtle and almost non-existent, to the point that if I start doing something, I'll miss the fact that I'm high. The effect seems like it promotes background anxiolysis and mood lift without marked intoxication.
+60: Now knowing the nature of the substance, I deemed it safe to redose another 4g. I feel content, warm and a little fuzzy. There is a tiny amount of histamine release, and although its 72 in my room and I'm just in shorts and a cutoff, I feel fine (it's very cold for where I am located). For the last three months, I've been tortured by shivers and goosebumps hitting me the second the temperature drops below 76. This is a nice break.
I'm still high at the time of typing this report and it has been about 3 hours. Good legs on this stuff. Also of note is the fact that I haven't felt cold as mentioned - or had a sneezing fit - for the last few hours. In the last few months since I quit subutex, the only lingering symptoms are goosebumps and sneeze attacks. Those are gone, along with my desire to play the double kick petals with my feet every second. At first I was skeptical that the alkaloids in M. speciosa had any activity at the opioid receptors but I'm sold on it now that it's relieving my lingering subutex withdrawal symptoms. I would say though that most reports on the web are exaggerated. I've seen people write that what they feel is equivalent to up to several hydrocodones. At best, I'd say this feels like 5mg of hydrocodone.
Prospective first timers ought to note that their expectations should be carefully managed going into their first experience so they do not come out disappointed. This is not a fuck-you-up party drug. It is very light. If you have used enough opioids lately, you may not even feel it. But I can tell it will help with withdrawals, especially at the later stage when the crazy symptoms have calmed a bit.
I was antsy about getting high - cannabis barely gets me high anymore unless I eat a 250mg+ edible, and I don't really like getting drunk. In a less ideal world, that would have caused an eventual relapse on tar. For some people (or myself if the fates deem it so), that could mean injury, jail or death. Kratom can prevent that and change someone's fate entirely.
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+0: I weigh out 6g's of kratom powder. Wow, a level teaspoon really is 3g, whodathunkit. I tried to go for the toss and wash method but missed the back of my tongue and coated my entire mouth and teeth. This powder has a terrible hydrophobic chalky consistency. Ugh. This better be worth it.
+20: I detect the come-up. Very subtle, barely noticeable. Probably as noticeable as the come-up of slamming a caffeinated drink really quick.
+40: Phil, meet kratom. Kratom, meet Phil. So, at first I thought it wasn't working, until I began to focus on everything. It's super subtle and almost non-existent, to the point that if I start doing something, I'll miss the fact that I'm high. The effect seems like it promotes background anxiolysis and mood lift without marked intoxication.
+60: Now knowing the nature of the substance, I deemed it safe to redose another 4g. I feel content, warm and a little fuzzy. There is a tiny amount of histamine release, and although its 72 in my room and I'm just in shorts and a cutoff, I feel fine (it's very cold for where I am located). For the last three months, I've been tortured by shivers and goosebumps hitting me the second the temperature drops below 76. This is a nice break.
I'm still high at the time of typing this report and it has been about 3 hours. Good legs on this stuff. Also of note is the fact that I haven't felt cold as mentioned - or had a sneezing fit - for the last few hours. In the last few months since I quit subutex, the only lingering symptoms are goosebumps and sneeze attacks. Those are gone, along with my desire to play the double kick petals with my feet every second. At first I was skeptical that the alkaloids in M. speciosa had any activity at the opioid receptors but I'm sold on it now that it's relieving my lingering subutex withdrawal symptoms. I would say though that most reports on the web are exaggerated. I've seen people write that what they feel is equivalent to up to several hydrocodones. At best, I'd say this feels like 5mg of hydrocodone.
Prospective first timers ought to note that their expectations should be carefully managed going into their first experience so they do not come out disappointed. This is not a fuck-you-up party drug. It is very light. If you have used enough opioids lately, you may not even feel it. But I can tell it will help with withdrawals, especially at the later stage when the crazy symptoms have calmed a bit.
I was antsy about getting high - cannabis barely gets me high anymore unless I eat a 250mg+ edible, and I don't really like getting drunk. In a less ideal world, that would have caused an eventual relapse on tar. For some people (or myself if the fates deem it so), that could mean injury, jail or death. Kratom can prevent that and change someone's fate entirely.
Tagged by Xorkoth
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