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Diet Kombucha brewer's over here?

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Looks normal to me, but I'm no expert...I just drink the stuff.

@tired of crap ?
Did the last time, and washed the brown substance of.

It behaves Yeast like. But could also be something totally different.

My last Kombucha was introduced slowly to those 'healthier' sugars. This one went head first, and was used to crystal Cane. May have shook up the balance. Now with the lower sugar at start, is another possibility but is was there before so?

In 20 day I ll taste. Just don't drink when its molded, smells not right of if you own Anthrax that got into the mixture. Its alive or its worthless someone wrote me once. No such thing as a half working one I made of that.
 
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The added second dose of sugar changed how the look the dark brown so called death tissue. It regained color an moved on up.

The sugar has allready been partly de-colorized in the brew. So its going good I guess. Lets wait for the taste as final verdict.

And no I am not eating the pancake. Though they are trying to make clothing from it. So there is probably some use for it.
I don't think my old man ever brews for more than a week before bottling. He's had other ferments going for up to a couple months....don't think they were kombucha though. It's hard to tell with the guy. He's like some wizard with all the rando stuff he's always cooking up, brewing, baking, etc.

I have to ask, because if it is a week or so only then I can't say his concoctions are a miss. They've got plenty of the good stuff.
In a week, with Kombucha there is hardly any Glucuronic acid and all the other good substance's that are a result of the symbiotic fermentation.

Isn't rebottling to premature? Shouldn't you give the Yeast the time to produce the things the Bacteria need.
 
If the concentration is right (read wrong) it’ll just kill the bacteria lol... iirc ~70% alcohol is best for sanitizing (which I’ll assume is gonna be way higher than what you’re proposing ... but still).

Would alcohol even feed the bacteria though
 
If the concentration is right (read wrong) it’ll just kill the bacteria lol... iirc ~70% alcohol is best for sanitizing (which I’ll assume is gonna be way higher than what you’re proposing ... but still).

Would alcohol even feed the bacteria though
The alcohol produced by the yeast is their food, among others .

They will tolerate a low percentage 4% max I guess.

GingerBeerPlant, also a symbiotic of yeast and bacteria can tolerate a lot higher Ethanol content btw, 15/ 17 % if I am correct. The Bacteria will not die from it.
 
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A new discovery -o- mine Rice Syrup (taken from Thylbert a Belgium commercial Kombucha brewer). Is supposed to produce an even better, sugar/ vinegar/ alcohol free Kombucha.

So that is an experiment I will conduct in the future.
 
I helped a buddy start his kombucha business here and I brewed for him for about a year before it turned into a gong show lol and I bailed... along the way he taught me some of his tricks of the trade. And I’ll share some here

He used organic cane sugar, only because of the whole natural organic fad -thanks hippies lol. However, he mentioned that it was subpar when compared to more refined sugars - as the scoby is better able to utiliZe the energy without all the extra crap in there.

Hes now using the cold brew technique... and honestly I haven’t spoke with him since I left (rather abruptly tbh lol), so I can’t speak as to why but I’m assuming it’s in part due to the whole raw food kick... but it’s also in part due to polyphenol loss when brewing. That’s why we were always mindful of temperature (depending on the type of tea used, higher for black, lower for green) and technique (Use a pot where the tea forms a solid crust on top) when brewing.

He recognized that boiling the water drove off air. So he only used enough water for the brew so that he could aerate the rest (add the sugar to the remaining water and either stir or use some other way to aerate it while the tea brews).

We also used the continuous brewing method. Taking off enough starter fluid before flavouring at bottling time. (Let this ferment for the duration of the primary ferment.) We wouldn’t use the pump after the tea was added, just stir. Then add the starter, stir and cover.

Primary fermentation times were only a week. Secondary was only 4 to 10 days on avg (depending on the juice added for flavouring).

Seems that’s all I can think of for now. Hope it helps.
Sound s like me, Yeast s have the most benefit s of the wholesome Sugar s.
Like Palm Sugar s, the drink got tasty and fizzy. But due to overfeeding
the Yeast s. Raw dried Cane juice sugar worked better.

Cold brew too, started with cooked, then thought why.
Learned it made water loose O2. Which benefits the Yeast [anaerobic],
but is a disadvantage for the Bacteria [aerobic].

Longer fermentation did not end in Kombucha Vinegar, to my surprise.
But bettered the outcome ? Best Kombucha made till now.
Learned that whatever the commercial can s do, is on paper dis-advised.

So adding Ginger, Lemon/ Limon, Stevia e.d. all negative effects on the
Bacteria s composition. Ginger and Lemon kills em, well that s the common info.
And things as Bergamot Oil, Earl grey Tea or Rooibos Tea too.
 
Wondering what would rank highest in term s of health:

-KOMBUCHA: lots of different Bacteria and Yeast s.
-GBP/ GingerBeerPlant: a few Bacteria and some unique Yeast.
-KEFIR: a few Bacteria [not the same as GBP] and Yeast.
-TIBLICOS, how much does this differ in composition from KEFIR ?


-Milk KEFIR: when you have Caseïne intolerance/ allergy.
Can you make it Vegan, like wit Oat or Coconut ?

My best guess Kombucha, when you can handle Camelia Sinensis,
 
I helped a buddy start his kombucha business here and I brewed for him for about a year before it turned into a gong show lol and I bailed... along the way he taught me some of his tricks of the trade. And I’ll share some here

He used organic cane sugar, only because of the whole natural organic fad -thanks hippies lol. However, he mentioned that it was subpar when compared to more refined sugars - as the scoby is better able to utiliZe the energy without all the extra crap in there.

Hes now using the cold brew technique... and honestly I haven’t spoke with him since I left (rather abruptly tbh lol), so I can’t speak as to why but I’m assuming it’s in part due to the whole raw food kick... but it’s also in part due to polyphenol loss when brewing. That’s why we were always mindful of temperature (depending on the type of tea used, higher for black, lower for green) and technique (Use a pot where the tea forms a solid crust on top) when brewing.

He recognized that boiling the water drove off air. So he only used enough water for the brew so that he could aerate the rest (add the sugar to the remaining water and either stir or use some other way to aerate it while the tea brews).

We also used the continuous brewing method. Taking off enough starter fluid before flavouring at bottling time. (Let this ferment for the duration of the primary ferment.) We wouldn’t use the pump after the tea was added, just stir. Then add the starter, stir and cover.

Primary fermentation times were only a week. Secondary was only 4 to 10 days on avg (depending on the juice added for flavouring).

Seems that’s all I can think of for now. Hope it helps.
Any idea how he came to that technique ?
Trial and error, common knowledge or.
From a Dutch Forum that spells Kombucha,
as Komboecha. But was aimed at Fibromyalgie ?

Wrote down my whole preparation experiments, and the effects.
With details but never got much response, i got real Bio-Chemistry.
Always did it 2 way s the known method and a brew new style.
just to check if it got better. He uses the exact same brewing style,
comforting i was actually on to something good.
Confirmation at last.

Ended like your friend, though never got to using Oak barrels,
or continuous brewing.

Kids, they consume NRG and time. And a lot.
Almost went to a TED-X in A*dam for a short Kombucha talk.
Canceled the invitation, then Kombucha boomed,
and was on the supermarkt shelves. Missed chance :cry:

edit: after rereading got the Op mention of his friends method.
The organic Cane Sugar is essentially, the same as white Beet sugar.
Just a little Mollasse left, but still Crystals.
I used dehydrated Cane Juice, organic, tastier.
And contains the whole spectrum of Sugar-Cane juice.

Also used Coconut sugar, as my theory rich in Nitrogen it would be great for
the Kombucha. It was only it were the Yeasts that mainly where helped by it.
They are anaerobic, so can use the sugar any where, Kombucha s bacteria.
Are aerobic [float on top mostly]. So to unrefined rich in nutrient s
is not per see good.

And special Bacteria, one makes the pancake,
a other can capture Nitrogen from the air. So my attempt was
proven not beneficial. Cane juice vs Crystallised, i d go for the 1-st.
Just has lots of Vitamin s, minerals and such.
 
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