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kolonopin?

ehead

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i had just got put on them yesterday and they don't do much for me. xanax worked better even though they were only .25 mg and now i am on 1mg of kolonopins and i had to take 8 just to realive my anxiety. i need help. i want these pills to work but nothing does. is there anything i could do to make them help me more? i am sick of getting on pills and nothing works. help me please. oh and hope the best for me because i am getting a kat scan on my brain today for brain damage. i need help not feeling lonely. so if you guys were there for me i would appreciate it. this time in my life is horrible. so if you guys could emotionally support me i would love it. thanx
 
just to clear it up here,its spelled KLONOPIN.
were you on xanax then they just switched to klonopin,if so you still have tolerance from the xanax(benzos have a cross tolerance)
you need to tell your doc that the dosage isnt workin for you!
only thing that increases the affect of BENZOs is ALCAHOL(i dont think that would be a good idea)
why do you need a KAT SCAN,is the damage done by drugs..??
hope yer ok though
 
Tolerance is probably a big issue with benzos, and if you were on a lot of xanax, it is possible that you are going through a very very slight withdrawal(hence the extra anxiety). Just drink a bit of alcohol with it... don't get drunk, just a bit. And check the search engines or erowid, this stuff is everywhere.
 
yeah the kat scan was for me to see how much brain damage i did do to myself and maybe this is why the drugs aren't working for me. oh and can you blow klonopins(spelt it right this time)thanks for the help. i use some more too though.
thanx
 
well i hope you lay off the drugs that did the damage...cause it will only get WORSE!!
back on the subject:
you can blow them BUT it wont hit you any faster than when you eat them(they arent water SOLUBLE).
if you want them to hit faster let the disolve under your tounge,i dont know if thats a good idea seein how you have to take SO many though(but DO keep it in mind)
or you could just chew them up
the klonopins i had tasted like candy(.5mg)
i dont know how the 1mg taste though
but i would still bring it up with your doc that the dose your prescribed isnt working for you
again ..if you want to get better LAY OFF the drugs that caused you the harm
[ 26 April 2002: Message edited by: HYDRO_CHRONIC ]
[ 26 April 2002: Message edited by: HYDRO_CHRONIC ]
 
Don't "blow" them as they aren't water-soluble. Very, very ineffective.
 
The only way your anxiety will improve is if you stop using drugs specifically stimulants and psychedelics. Opiates I have found are OK at normal doses...but even those should be avoided. Klonopin and Xanax are much alike...I think you have a tolerance issue going on...Definetly speak to the doctor and get some xanax prescribed.
 
Ok, we all know benzos aren't soluble in water and snorting is semi-pointless(unless you really like to snort things, some people do) but, the theory behind sublingual administration(under the toungue, which several people that say not to snort them advise you to do)is that the drug absorbs into your bloodstream through the capillaries under your tongue. Isn't this the same way that snorting things absorbs through the capillaries in your nose? Correct me if I am wrong here.
Off topic, but it's bothering me so I have to voice: it's a CT scan; it is only pronounced 'cat' because it is easier than saying 'cee-tee'. It's actually an abbreviation for computer tomography.
 
Isn't this the same way that snorting things absorbs through the capillaries in your nose? Correct me if I am wrong here. \
things that ARENT SOLBLE ARENT goin to be absorbed through the NOSE!!
its better to chew them OR let tem disolve under your tongue!!
 
ehead: I feel your pain. Reading your post suggests you are taking the klonopin more out of an attempt to feel loved/less lonely rather than for direct anxiety relief. In other words you aren't taking k because getting on an airplane makes feel like you are going to die but rather for social issues. You want the k to help you make friends and feel less lonely and numb the pain of your life right now.
Well maybe that isn't quite it, but it is something like my situation (emotionally no brain damage yet :-) ). In either case I will share some observations.
Klonopin (and benzos in general) really aren't the type of drugs you can just take to make this shit better. If I take a bunch of k I find myself very easily finding myself depressed, seeing life as meaningless and finding myself very very very lonely. It can be a tool, in moderate doses in appropriate situations it can let you be more social make friends etc.. but it is far from a magic bulet and taking too much makes things worse.
Now I really wish I could give you some nice fuzzy advice about how there are people out there who will love you and care for you. Well this is true, most people can bound with most others. Look out at the world and see what kind of complete losers have friends and lovers. Fuck, people lavish love on damn furry slobbery dogs there are probably tons of people who would be very close friends if the right things happened.
Unfortunatly people keep up barriers between themselves. Revealing your true self leaves you open to rejection. There are millions of other souls sliding past you every day burning with loneliness, a lonlieness that under the right conditions you could fill.
This is why e and raves are so attractive (tho the last rave I went to in SF was way to fucking trendy and no PLUR). For a few magic hours we are unafraind of revealing our true selves, we are filled with joy as we discover others like ourselves that, at least for the moment, care for us. Heroin, oxy, coke, meth, are all fun but a good roll is a return to the garden of eden. A brief paradise where we can taste life without original sin.
Unfortunatly these friendships, these magical connections made on e *usually* don't last. For one night we may share all our needs desires and wants with a girl we just met. Yet morning comes and those connections don't last. We are self concious again and while at heart we may all be similar our superficial values differ. The sad truth is that friendships/relationships are truly founded on convience and proximity rather than any real special connection. If you want friends just go find something you like doing that others do as well, repeat activity with same group of people. Invariably you will become friends. If you do this with a single girl soon you will become lovers and convinced you are soul mates (until of course one of you spots something better).
You can make friends, half the people on this board would probably be willing to be your friends. I however am on klonopin as I speak and am overwhelmed with the pointlessness of it all. Sure you can make friends but they never really know you. Finding people who you can truly just be yourself with and be accepted are going to be tough as fuck to find.
Just screw it and become a heroin addict. If society is designed to alienate and isolate the individual drop out.
Anyway after that depressive rant might provide some practical advice. If I take klonopin and am feeling lonely etc.. weed works wonders (this post was originally going to be much more bitter but now im stoned). Also helpfull are stims (tho this can cause anxiety probs) even mere ephedrine can be helpfull but I would say weed is better. Cutting down on the k and using them only when you need them is probably a good idea too (which I should follow). I think tolerance to the anviolytic effects grows much faster than to the depresion/lonlieness inducing ones.
BTW on that taking 8 how long did you let it kick in. Klonopin onset can be a couple hours which also makes it much more subtle.
[ 27 April 2002: Message edited by: quale ]
 
Originally posted by HYDRO_CHRONIC:
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things that ARENT SOLBLE ARENT goin to be absorbed through the NOSE!!
its better to chew them OR let tem disolve under your tongue!!

Uh, I think you missed the point. The reason medications are administered sublingually is because they ARE SOLUBLE IN WATER and are going to absorb into the blood in the capillaries under your tongue. Things that ARENT SOLBLE ARENT going to be absorbed through the CAPILLARIES UNDER YOUR TONGUE, either.
 
Your saliva has other stuff in it to break down things. Throwing a piece of steak in a glass of water and bludgeoning it with a triple-pronged gardening claw isn't going to make it look like chewed up food. Fling some snot on your pill and put it in a 100 degree room for an hour and see how that goes.
 
>Your saliva has other stuff in it to break down things. <
Amylase, contained in human saliva, breaks down starch into sugar. How does this turn clonazepam into a water-soluble substance?
 
the last rave I went to in SF was way to fucking trendy and no PLUR
Did anyone else find this funny? Dammit, where did all the PLUR go!?
I don't know why you would ever insufflate benzos, but sublingual administration is indeed effective.
 
Don't get me wrong, I'm not arguing that sublingual benzos aren't more effective than snorting or anything, that's how I always take the 0.5mg klonopins(they just taste so good). I am just trying to understand the action of it...
 
Don't get me wrong, I'm not arguing that sublingual benzos aren't more effective than snorting or anything, that's how I always take the 0.5mg klonopins(they just taste so good). I am just trying to understand the action of it...
if you know its more affective(than snorten) WHY ARE you arguein that its no more better than snortin??
 
>if you know its more affective(than snorten) WHY ARE you arguein that its no more better than snortin?? <
I never said it was more effective, I just said that is how I take them because they taste good. I asked a question as to why sublingual administration is more effective than swallowing them. Sublingual administration works on the same principle as insufflation, the chemical absorbs into the capillaries in your mucous membranes.
[ 28 April 2002: Message edited by: ketamatic ]
 
^^ i see what yer sayin but i feel it quicker when i snort xanax,but not with k-pins,i let them disolve,it weird,it makes me wonder ..ah well
 
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