Kit q's.

[forb]

After recently dabbling in a few select substances, and having friends who occasionally do, i figured it would make alot of sense to purchase one of the highly talked about testing kits, but naturally i have a few questions.

For a casual user like myself and friends, aiming to score md when buying x, and aiming to avoid the likes of meth,h etc, how effective can a kit be?

I have read that the general instruction is to shear the pill, and add a dropper from the testing kit, much like pH testing in chemistry. For the purpose of example, we'll say here that molly turns the solution purple, and say meth turns it green. (sake of example).

Surly if the pill contains both substances but is prodominantly mdma, wont the solution turn purple despite the presence of meth or additional added substances?

Are there any concise methods for telling exactly what IS in the pill, as opposed to whats not in it?

Thanks for the advice. F.

 

[RavenousBlonde]

Buying a testing kit is very effective and worth every penny.

Yes, you take a scraping of the pill and test it using your choice of reagents. Different reagents test for different substances. See more info here: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_faq_testing_kits.shtml

For example, if you are testing with Marquis and your results come up purple/black with orange swirls, this lets you know that your pill contains an ecstasy like substance along with speed.

The only way you can tell exactly to the "t" what is in your pill is by GC/MS testing. Reagents give you a good idea, and are the best tool available since GC/MS testing is quite expensive.

I hope you do get a testing kit...you'll be so glad you did.

 

[DOHCrazy]

Ive been able to pretty acurately 'guess' how much' amphetamine is in a pill by using the same method RavenousBlonde uses.

Ive had pills where there were only slight traces of orange, and I've also had pills where the test showed mostly orange. These pills were different amounts of amphetamine, respectively.

Get a test kit.

 

[Dragynfyr]

I AM a test kit =p

My greatest feat was the time a snorted half a pill, and was able to guess all three substances in it, mdxx, meth, and 2ct*. I couldn't believe it when the testing results came up on pill reports as what I predicted hehe

Horrible pills though, I bought a kit to safe time money and brain cells.


Word of advice though, you may as well just drop the extra 30 bux to get the combo kit with all the different testers- You only have to get boned with MDE you were hoping was MDMA a couple times before you start getting pissed that purple can mean all three MDs.

Plus, it's such an amazing feeling the first time you realize your holding MDMA/MDA combos!

 

[djfriendly]

I AM a test kit =p

My greatest feat was the time a snorted half a pill, and was able to guess all three substances in it, mdxx, meth, and 2ct*. I couldn't believe it when the testing results came up on pill reports as what I predicted

Did someone have the pills sent for lab testing? How was it positively determined that these three compounds were contained in the pills?

Word of advice though, you may as well just drop the extra 30 bux to get the combo kit with all the different testers- You only have to get boned with MDE you were hoping was MDMA a couple times before you start getting pissed that purple can mean all three MDs.

None of the testing reagents can discern MDE from MDMA.

 

[Dragynfyr]

someone in the area tested the same pills with the full battery of testers and posted on pill reports the week after.


=( and that second part is depressing, I was looking forward to that =\

 

[djfriendly]

Do you honestly believe that one can use spot color reagents to positively determine that a single mixed sample contains MDMA, meth, and 2C-T-x?

The only way that would be possible if if there were three tests perfomed, one with a reagent which reacted with only MDMA, one which reacted with only 2-C-T-x, and one which reacted with only methamphetamine. No such reagents exist.

I'm sorry, but this is only possible in a laboratory, and if you think otherwise you're fooling yourself. This "swirl the sample to see all the colors" stuff I sometimes read about is wishful thinking - unscientific nonsense.

Only the final color of the reaction (or an initial reaction such as bubbling, and in a few cases, a specific progression of color changs) can be used to identify a substance. If one wishes to avoid pills which give dirty reactions, thats a fine idea, but one cannot translate that into data on the internet saying "these pills have been tested to contain X, Y, and Z" with any more authority than someone saying "I took the pills and they were trippy so they must be 2C-B."

That is, quite simply, not how spot color testing reagents work.

If someone gets one of these tablets to ecstasydata for testing, and it is analyzed to contain those three exact substances, I'll send you my iPod. I don't intend these posts to pick on you, dragonfyre. This is a particular pet peeve of mine.

 

[Dragynfyr]

Personally I haven't tested a triple color pill, but I've seen meth/mdx rxns that we're easy enough to pick out. It wouldn't be the most precise thing in the world to interpret what some additional swirls of green would mean, but it gives you a better idea. I might have the PR page saved somewhere, I can't remember exactly how they said it was tested, just the final results...now I suppose a trip to edata is in order.....


BTW, probably just a coincidence about how you misspelled my name, but you wouldn't be associated with anyone going by the initials tme by chance would you?