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Heroin Kicking the devil

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dopefien

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So I guess I've been using this site incorrectly, so I'm going to try to write this the correct way...I've decided to quit the evil drug and picked up 45 suboxone from a sub doctor. Know I know doing all of them is silly, I'll get addicted. I was just wondering if it IS possible to quit with just subs...and I have been using them wrong in the past? I always dry heave blood and cannot drink water when I take the concoctions they give me in rehab, it's like I can't swallow and I feel funny...like I overdosed on something. (Ultriam robaxol, whatever else they gave me) I Denies all medication my third day and ended up leaving. I've never successfully made it past 48 hours. And rehabs don't help. I don't know why I have become very antisocial in my use. Kind of a hermit...anyways any suggestions? Should I spit out the narloxone? I've heard that helps?
 
I just started on Suboxone last week, so far, its an absolute godsend, but Ive heard eventually I will just feel normal, so I will deal with that when it comes though, whats important right now, is IM NOT out copping and using dope or pills, and to be honest, I dont even have the desire to use any of that shit, Suboxone is truly an amazing drug, but IT IS an opioid, so it does produce some general 'opiate' type feelings, takes away all body aches and pains, puts me in a great mood, some euphoria, these effects are nothing compared to what H did to me, but I think thats the goal.

My sub doc explained it in the best way I have heard yet...said a wolf deep down desires to go out and kill a goat to eat it, satisfying its need to eat, but if given a bowl of dog food, the wolf is still satisfying his need to eat, but lacking the 'hunt' of going out and killing the goat, in short the wolf really desires the goat, but can go on living just fine if given dog food...Suboxone is the 'bowl of dog food, as addicts, we will always truly desire to out and hunt/ use heroin, but if given something similar/ safer, we can maintain and go on with our lives just fine.
 
i think suboxone is actually worse than dope, i hate to sound like a jerk here but you are only postponing the inevitable. sure you sound like you are in a great mood and say you have no cravings to use dope but thats just the subs in full effect. i was on suboxone for 2 years man its the worst fucking drug and the w/ds are way worse than dope. i relapsed 3 weeks after i was off of subs and now I'm back to using on and off, honestly though its better than being on suboxone.
 
mrsnowygrainius said:
i think suboxone is actually worse than dope, i hate to sound like a jerk here but you are only postponing the inevitable. sure you sound like you are in a great mood and say you have no cravings to use dope but thats just the subs in full effect. i was on suboxone for 2 years man its the worst fucking drug and the w/ds are way worse than dope. i relapsed 3 weeks after i was off of subs and now I'm back to using on and off, honestly though its better than being on suboxone.
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Ive heard some other people say the same thing...so Im kind of confused now... there seems to be 2 different arguments regarding use of subs to treat opiate addiction, there are quite a few people that have been on it for a long time that say it saved their lives, but you are saying its worse than dope, so..?? Im assuming it must effect everyone in different ways (only thing I can think of).

Plus alot of what Ive read about Suboxone itself, says it DOES NOT produce the opiate 'euphoria', it cant do both, it either does or does not, hell the little informational brochure that was stapled to my prescription bag, even says while it is an opioid, it DOES NOT have the same side effects as opiates, Euphoria is not a listed side effect either.

I can also provide links to many many people claiming it does NOT get them high, all it does is stop the w/d sickness and prevent you from craving stronger opiates, Ive read thru countless 'reviews' of this drug before starting it

Im still feeling pretty good, no aches or pains, and still NO cravings to go out and buy pills or H...not sure why or how, but the important thing is, it seems to be doing its job just like the doctor told me it would, of course, its nowhere near as good as heroin, but I did not expect that either, nothing even close actually. LOL I DO NOT HAVE the desire to cop street drugs, so in that sense its working, Im not that concerned with withdrawling at this point, cuz he already said I would be on it indefinitely, due to me taking for pain as well as opiate addiction...when the time comes to get off it, I will deal with that then.
 
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