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paperchaser

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:(Hey all so if I am kicking the heroin again and getting sick if i take a really small hit to stop the sickness will that just make the whole process start all over again or will i be ok and just keep going from there like will it still have an effect on my tolerance and my kick or will it screw everything up thanks for all info bluelighters you are awesome<3
 
nooooo, taking JUST enough to ease the sickness wont start you all over again. it will however prolong the process. You have to decide between quick and intense or long and mild
 
maybe personal experience or some facts may help clarify thanks for quick response sececard and ech0s85
 
I've experienced cold turkey withdrawal from opiates, and it's hell. I've been physically dependent, and then kicked, opiates a handful of times.

I had been using opiates for the last 5 months, daily for the last 3 or 4. I wanted to get off the opiates, but could not deal with withdrawal, so for the last 20 days I cut my daily dose down gradually. I didn't get high, and I felt minor withdrawal symptoms, but nothing like cold turkey.

In my opinion, if you have been using opiates for any length of time so that you NEED to use, the best most comfortable way to quit is by tapering down. If you can set up a realistic plan and stick to it, tapering is far FAR easier than cold turkey withdrawal. Tapering gives your mind/body time to adjust back to normal, with the least amount of pain. It's well worth the effort, whatever you have to do, to set a plan and taper down.

The hard part is sticking to a plan. Most if not all drug users have a `MORE` mentality. So only doing a small amount that doesn't make you feel great but just OK, when you have a pile just sitting there, is tough to do. It's so much easier than full on withdrawal though. Patience, determination, and self-control. The more people you have who you trust completely and you can get to help you out, the better chance you have.
 
thanks it seems like whenever im in the real nasty part of the kick i give in and take a hit or two to take the nastyness away but i really just want to be done with it and get it over with ive been on for about a month now so i hope it wont be too nasty of a kick
 
Here's the honest truth.

Doing small bits will help, physically and psychologically. It will prolong the withdrawal, but it will make it much more tolerable.

The big problem is willpower. Do you have it in you to only do small bits? Are you sure you won't get carried away and go for a full hit?

IF you have the willpower to only use small bits, it's for the best. Personally, for me, it's all or nothing.
 
So its heroin and your method of ingestion is smoking? I'd say you need to measure your doses with a scale (to know exactly how much you are taking so you can taper down) and you should start eating it. Smoking is too variable, and if you want to quit, it's best (in my opinion) to change to a slower acting, but longer lasting method - so eating it. I'm assuming there is at least some consistency in the quality of drugs you get. Also, if you aren't used to eating it, be careful not to get impatient and up your dose, only to find it kick in and be too much.

And if you've only been using a month that's a good thing, it's always easier to quit something before it gets any worse. So the time to act is now. And like I said, you have to make a plan, write it out, and hold yourself to it. Otherwise you'll just wake up tomorrow, use like normal, and wish you could quit. It's so easy to just keep using and then at the end of the day wonder why you are still stuck. Next thing you know it's two months later, nothing has changed, you're just more broke and more sick of being stuck. Or, at least that's how it goes for me.

People say it will prolong the process, but if you stick to the plan, when you reach that last day and your dose is tiny, you will wake up the next day off the shit, and with minimal discomfort.

I'm just saying how I would go about it - but then again a month of daily use, you could cold turkey it and be fine in a week. But I don't know you or how your body responds in withdrawal. you have to know what's really possible for you. Taper or just cutting it off.
 
^Heroin has a HORRIBLE bioavailability when done orally. Unless he's rich, he won't be able to afford to taper orally.

I'm under the impression that people who smoke dope have a very particular skill. They don't waste much, and so they are able to control their dose very accurately. A scale is still a good idea, but I don't think it'd be hard for him to smoke a smaller quantity (it's within his control, if he has the will).
 
I admit I don't know how good/bad bioavailability is when eaten. I was always already high when I ate the rest, and just wanted to add to duration of effects.

You could be right about smokers being efficient, I avoided smoking because I'm not. I hate seeing my drugs float away unused. I do think that switching method of administration to one that isn't his preferred is a good thing if wanting to get off the drug. It shows a dedication to getting it done right and using intellect instead of following the reptile-brain's greedy `more, faster, now` instinct. Just my own little theory.
 
eating it wont do anything. if he is smoking it thats fine, but if he wanted to use a ROA that lasted longer snorting would be the way to go.
 
just mix it with a drop or two of water and snort it up. The trick is to keep it in you nose without letting it drip though. Also it burns like crazy and tastes pretty bad too, main reasons i smoke it.
 
for me smoking helped a lot at night but i rarely smoke and i can kill crazy bowls while kicking. its like how when youre coming down from shrooms or acid you can smoke endless weed.
 
Ive been on opiates for 2 yrs and kicked about 5 times, I always did it with subs and its def much easier then ct but tapering is the way to go you avoid the horrible wd and feeling miserable, this way you dont feel like shit your not miserable and you have something to look forward to instead of dreading the process....thats afcourse if you can stick to the plan !!!
 
If smoking doesn't cut it maybe you could eat a bag of shrooms every time you feel sick, it'll help you remember why you're quitting
 
how bout evreytime u feel like using go n pop like 50mg of immodium ive never tried it but i hear it really helps.As from experience that little hit to feel ok, winds up bein a long one week big hit for me. So id stay away from real opiates.Try to get some benzo's maybe n knock urself out.
 
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