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Khat now in Amsterdam Smartshops
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AbraMontague
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Khat, a decent upper? <Laughing too hard to type> Now I can be as dilligent as all those Middle Eastern Nomads.
SovietContin
Bluelighter
From what I've read about Khat, the high is suppossed to have a lot of side-effects, be chaotic like methcat unlike amp or methamp and have one of the worst stimulant comedowns ever.
I'd never be tempted to use Khat. Even snorting ritalin like a 7th grader sounds more appealing.
I'd never be tempted to use Khat. Even snorting ritalin like a 7th grader sounds more appealing.
RaverMadness
Bluelighter
Hmmm.... think I'll pass. If meth::ephedra as to mcat::khat, that's going to be one fucking wicked comedown. Now, I'm one of those weird people who doesn't get hangovers, and harsh stimulants like E and meth just make me slightly disoriented when they wear off, but methcathinone pretty much nuked any ability to preform basic logic functions or due math the next day.
Example: Started snorting cat at about 6 in the afternoon. Left for a party at 10 with slightly over a gram of cat in tow, which ran out around maybe 1. The next day, my friends send me to Taco Bell with a list of what everyone wants to order and money rounded off to the next dollar. After staring at my list, the money, and the menu for like a minute and a half, I hand the money and list to the cashier guy and say, "Hi. I want this and have this much money. You figure it out." I'm really surprised I was able to walk the two blocks back to the apartment and carry the food. It wore off, but that next day really sucked.
Example: Started snorting cat at about 6 in the afternoon. Left for a party at 10 with slightly over a gram of cat in tow, which ran out around maybe 1. The next day, my friends send me to Taco Bell with a list of what everyone wants to order and money rounded off to the next dollar. After staring at my list, the money, and the menu for like a minute and a half, I hand the money and list to the cashier guy and say, "Hi. I want this and have this much money. You figure it out." I'm really surprised I was able to walk the two blocks back to the apartment and carry the food. It wore off, but that next day really sucked.
emkee
Bluelighter
i had become a great connaiseur of KHAT a few years ago when i could buy it from somalic men who would chew it together in a khat house. a very social place with their music on the background. they were always in great mood and chewing and very talkative. would then buy a fresh bundle and chew it away sippin on cola or green tea. and have to say the high and euphoria was one of the best i have experienced.
i very pleased to hear it has been picked up by smartshops and will do a quike surch in a*dam myself soon (legal to sell according to a trial conducted round selling drug like raw plant material).
its effect IMHO do not resemble amfetamines or mdma that much but have a character of their own. and no harsh comedown like you mentioned but a very soft one. i actualy fell asleep after a while awaking still feeling high without ever crashin mentally or physicly.
i very pleased to hear it has been picked up by smartshops and will do a quike surch in a*dam myself soon (legal to sell according to a trial conducted round selling drug like raw plant material).
its effect IMHO do not resemble amfetamines or mdma that much but have a character of their own. and no harsh comedown like you mentioned but a very soft one. i actualy fell asleep after a while awaking still feeling high without ever crashin mentally or physicly.
emkee
Bluelighter
i do also think that khats active ingredients must be some kind of mix not just cathinone because it creates more then just some sloppy stimulant high. according to a book called the power of plants it also contains scopolamine which is a well known hallucinogen. while another one claims it has substances that are turned into mda and mdma in the body (which i think is complete bullshit). the fact that it fueled with vitamins and minerals is also an advantage.
one question goa do the sell it raw or dried, somaliers and other resources say its activity is directly related to freshness of the plant material.
one question goa do the sell it raw or dried, somaliers and other resources say its activity is directly related to freshness of the plant material.
PhreeX
Bluelight Crew
NOTE: They are not talking about methcathinone like you find on the streets in the US, but rather Khat aka the plant shit that produces even LESS euphoria/speed then methcath (if that is possible)..
StoneHappyMonday
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To anyone reading this thread for good information, the only one who knows what he's talking about here appears to be EmKee. Khat rocks. It ain't ice, it ain't E and it certainly ain't Cat. Its Khat and its wonderful. But personally I hope the head shops don't pick it up. Surefire way to get it banned. And I've got a few thousand Somalians in my country (England) who would be pretty pissed off at that.
emkee
Bluelighter
right and thats it i am going to get myself hooked with a somalian connection again because i know drugs and far as euphoria goes nothing has yet beaten KHAT. this all just made me wine and think back in time HappyMonday. i loved that vibrating feel it gave sure you could get that by takin a gram of speed but it would be nowhere as good as a fresh bundle of Catha Edulis chewed away on a sunny day.
SovietContin
Bluelighter
Well I still don't trust the few opinions here that it doesn't have a bad comedown, because everything I've heard in the past contradicts that.
Also if any of you are seriously interested in chewing, Khat will destroy a lot of the tissue and veins in your mouth if you use it regularly.
Also if any of you are seriously interested in chewing, Khat will destroy a lot of the tissue and veins in your mouth if you use it regularly.
emkee
Bluelighter
what do you consider a come down? for me things like mushrooms ghb ritalin have allmost no comedown khat ephedra 5-meo-dipt maybe valium some what more and mdma speed coke well you know what i mean. those last three can produce the real one sometimes i like it sometimes i dont.
but it can also depends on frequency of soon as you start (ab)using a drug more and more the comedown seems to become nastier. so basicly the variables are to many one thing is sure 1 time wont hurt you. the potency of fresh khat is amazing one bundle could get 2 people khattin way beyond bedtime but sleep was possible when the night was over. we did consume gigantic proportions of skunk and cola/ (green)tea (for caffein) during the event. next day a nice glow remained and maybe some exhaustion due to some sleep shortage & excessive activity but nothing like how i felt after 1/2 gr speed.
but it can also depends on frequency of soon as you start (ab)using a drug more and more the comedown seems to become nastier. so basicly the variables are to many one thing is sure 1 time wont hurt you. the potency of fresh khat is amazing one bundle could get 2 people khattin way beyond bedtime but sleep was possible when the night was over. we did consume gigantic proportions of skunk and cola/ (green)tea (for caffein) during the event. next day a nice glow remained and maybe some exhaustion due to some sleep shortage & excessive activity but nothing like how i felt after 1/2 gr speed.
PhreeX
Bluelight Crew
emkee
Bluelighter
quote:"I was believin ya, up until then.....
ritalin definatly has a bad comedown!"
if it does i never noticed it but as i mentioned it also depends on frequency of use and i only took them a few times in small ammounts 20mgs and noticed no comedown. khat i chewed a lot of times and the comedown was harder then ritalin but very bareable and it actually made you high something ritalin definitly didnt.
and i hear all these personal statements against khat but you have to face it most people dont like to chew on stems for hours and hours (and i do). because thats what you got to do one little taste wont do it. and most important its got to be FRESH!
ritalin definatly has a bad comedown!"
if it does i never noticed it but as i mentioned it also depends on frequency of use and i only took them a few times in small ammounts 20mgs and noticed no comedown. khat i chewed a lot of times and the comedown was harder then ritalin but very bareable and it actually made you high something ritalin definitly didnt.
and i hear all these personal statements against khat but you have to face it most people dont like to chew on stems for hours and hours (and i do). because thats what you got to do one little taste wont do it. and most important its got to be FRESH!