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Ketamine topical creams/preperations

^ You rub it on your gums for recreation?

Anyway, the thread was about using ketamine as a pain medication, otherwise this would have been shot over to PD.
 
What a stupid idea. Topical ketamine? pish tosh.

a waste of money.

Unless someone has a study comparing Lidocaine + Ket to just Lido.
 
Hope this is not too late to do some good. I am a pharmacist (really) and I know that topical ketamine works wonders for neuropathic pain and also as an adjunct (add-on) to opiates for pain management. If you need drug information, go to the drug informations specialist, a pharmacist. If they do not know the answser, ask a hospital or hospice pharmacist. They may have more/better resources to find the answer to your question. Ketamine does not need DMSO to absorb through the skin. It will do it quite willingly by itself. (Just another thing a compounding pharmacist will know.) Combos of ketamine and other drugs for pain are becoming quite common with the revival of compounding pharmacies. Any further questions?????
 
Just Chiming in.... hope this won't be considered raising a thread from the dead, but today I opened a package on my doorstep that contains "10% ketamine" compounded into a cream for topical use.

I just used it and have to say that as far as helping to control neuropathic pain it is actually pretty damn effective. Just trying to figure out how much I should use is going to piss me off for a while because I can't figure out the dispersion of the ketamine.

It says there is 60 grams of the emulsion so that would make 6 grams of ketamine in the entire package being that it says "10% ketamine"? 6 grams seems a little bit high for some reason. I did the math and there should be 0.1 gram per mL or 100mg but I don't think that's right.

Either way its pretty damn useful for pain I would say, especially for those people who are just absolutely sick of needing to use opioids all the time which just mask the pain until it comes back.

Edit: I think I used a bit too much... starting to feel all floaty all of a sudden.
Edit2: I also remember reading a piece in "People" about patients with unrelenting pain going through "k-holes" administered by a doctor and from what I read the results look promising. Granted this is probably for patients who are absolutely willing to try anything... but Im sure there are a few of those here as well.
 
Thread seems pretty dead, but I have also obtained some topical ketamine. It says 120gm are in the jar, but its neuropathy gel so it also contains several other things such as baclofen, amitryptiline, and clonidine i believe. Would they're be any way to get any recreational potential from this?
 
cwimmer205 said:
Would they're be any way to get any recreational potential from this?
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Bumping this thread AND the "smoking ketamine" thread to share my experience which went against what I read in this thread, and the other one I already mentioned.

You can DEFINITELY spread this on cigarettes/joints/blunts and smoke it. Try a couple. I used 15% Ketamine 25% Ketaprofen 30% Gabopentin lotion. Worked very well.

Also, against what was stated, you can take this orally. Its digusting, but I squirted about quarter sized generous dab in the bottom of a shot glass, filled it to the top with chocolate Soy milk, and it was definitely efficient.

Have fun!
 
I also have some ketamine cream.

On the bottle it says: Ketam. (under that it says 240 GM) / Bupiv./Cyclo./Diclof./Gaba. 10/1/2

Does anyone know what the concentrate would be of ketamine? And how would I figure out the milligram?
 
pizzy said:
I wonder if there is a way to extract the ketamine from this cream.
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Honestly, probably not worth it. I work in one of the highest volume retail pharmacies on the East coast, and we compound this stuff by the 5 pound tub at a time, a few times per week, typically in a PLO gel format, with Ketoprofen, Gabapentin, Amitriptyline, and Lidocaine (occasionally with other various chemicals). The common name for these ketamine topical pain preparations when in PLO is "Bone Gel" (just as there are various recipes for Nerve gels, BDR, ABR, ABHR etc). Hospice patients are regularly prescribed Bone Gel for local pain, and neuropathy. While I have never used any topical Ketamine preparations myself, they generally get a good response from patients of ours.

As for recreational value... not a whole lot.
 
being focused around ketamine i gathered it would fit better over here in the \ trippy discussion place. we've got one of two other similsr threads floating about so thought i'd share the load mostly in hope of new, uncovered info we've not got in OD.

don't hesitate to send back as we're more than to take it back:)
 
I just learned that the topical cream I was getting from a compound pharmacy contains Ketamine. I did not even know it was legal. It is a schedule III drug. The pharmacy presented it to me years ago & said that they would call my doc for a Rx. As long as I got this cream they were not charging me ANY copays...for anything!! That's the only reason I got it at all. I used a SMALL amount on my aching legs (twice). It did not help much & the consistancy is so gross (it's non-homogeneous, gritty, & greasy) it did not seem to be a good product. Apparently it HAS helped others for pain though. I guess you have to use a lot. Pharmacy's being investigated for dispensing w/out Rx, & for not charging copays (but charging BC/BS hundreds/month for it).
 
I've definitely ingested some of this cream and it definitely has potential for recreational use. Measuring the amount of ketamine taken is extremely hard though, pretty much impossible for me. So each time is either hit or miss. Usually hit though, I found that one pump will do good, 1.5 is perfect, have yet to try more than that due to the bupiv. in it. Scared it'll mess with my heart. I want to extract the ketamine out of this though. That would be nice.
 
I had Ketamine/lidocane cream for my back, it worked okay, mine was 10% I believe. It didn't help nearly as much as i had hoped, and i never had any side effects from it at all, but the primary effects weren't very good
 
Our recipe we use for a pleuronic F-127 based pain gel that contains Ketamine (as well as amitriptyline, ketoprofen, ibuprofen, and a host of others) has (if I remember correctly off the top of my head...) 22 grams of Ketamine per lb/454gm. It is in a Pleuronic F-127/Lecithin Palmitate/ethoxy diglycol base though... I wouldn't want to eat it personally... I also have heard anecdotal response from my patients that it isn't really that helpful for treating localized pain. That said, the morphine topical creams we prepare... those are a hit with those on death's door.
 
i wouldnt mind some of this ketamine cream for the verruca on my foot. Its killing me Lol, and i thought id removed all of it before. I guess i was wrong
 
Can the pharmacists/ techs who posted in this thread list the inactive ingredients in a *typical* batch of this? It sounds like extremely stupid people are going to eat it one way or another (facepalm) so we might as well educate them.
 
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