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Dissociatives [Ketamine Subthread] Intravenous Injection (IV)

Any one ever tryed this?

I'm quiting heroin ,still on MMT though. But was wondering how it was IV in small doses not Anaesthetic. But just under.

Must be pretty sedating or will it be a K hole? Becuase i'm not looking for a K hole.
Just want some pleasent sedation.

Thanks

Just under Anesthetic is a VERY small window to hit. Quite a high chance of just knocking yourself out. And if you go for just under you are DEFINITELY going to get a K-hole. This is the wrong drug to look for "pleasant sedation" IMO. BUT if you must go for a low insufflated dose or IM dose. IV is really interesting though as it provides the single most baffling head rush in the world, where you go 0 to absolutely disassociated an a couple heart beats, similar to smoked DMT in the rush but you are going into dissociative space not tryptamine space. This can be one of the most psychedelic, non recreational experiences around not exactly where I go if I want pleasant sedation. There are definitely sedated aspects to the experience but that is always a fraction of the experience IMO.

Also remember, as a recovering heroine user, ketamine is addictive, and it really "grabs" onto some people in a way completely unique to the compound.
 
You're not going to want to IV K on MMT.

I was on like 1mg of buprenorphine, and I tried IV K for the first time - I remember telling myself "ok time to breathe"... and I would have to force my body to go through the mechanical motion of breathing.

You may find it too hard to breathe on such a combo.

It's going to be a K hole. If you just want sedation, pop a benzo.

IV K = psychedelic wonderland.

You're going to feel it working in seconds, seconds after you pull the needle out you will have a raging bell-ringer (I get one every time, they are more intense than IV coke bell-ringers), and within minutes you should be peaking, and tripping quite hard.

Also remember, as a recovering heroine user, ketamine is addictive, and it really "grabs" onto some people in a way completely unique to the compound.

True, I've seen people who had a really, really hard time not using ketamine...essentially impossible to stop dosing.

I didn't have a problem with ketamine, mostly because it's not something you're going to want to repeat multiple times a day for every day; it will eventually cause issues for you if you do that.

Ketamine is something I like to do every few days if it's around, if not I'm completely fine.
 
It's not too much, it's a beautiful thing.

I am just worried if you go into a K hole while on methadone, you might have severe respiratory depression.

Have a sitter if you want to do this, that would be my first and foremost warning.

The K hole is unlike a lot of other drugs, even other dissociative anesthetics. It's actually quite like doing a lot of drugs at once, according to some. Upon IVing it, you'll go into a bellringer, mild to heavy euphoria (heavier the euphoria, the closer to the 'sweet spot' dosage; the dose that gets you the most high with the least dissociation), complete body high, etc.

Keep in mind that this is a drug unlike heroin; you cannot keep redosing. It's a bad idea. You can redose, I know I have, but keep it minimal. If you were to use K heavily for a 6 month span of time, you might have irreversible brain damage.

If you can keep your K experiences to once a week, you should be completely fine.

K and Mushrooms have a lot of similarities, and I've done K and Mushrooms together to know how potent each is.

Start small (you'll be more high than you'd imagine) and work your way up.

But definitely have a sitter.
 
How much methadone are you on ?

Do you find your dose makes you nod out ? If the answer is yes then you would be advised to wait until that phase of the methadone effect has worn off. Better still do the K seperately to the methadone.

Methadone is listed in BNF a substance which is a special hazard - over & above most other common opiates such as heroin/morphine.

Whilst ketamine doesn't supress your heart & breathing rate to any significant degree on it's own it is used in conjunction with morphine for analgesia - however this doesn't necessarily make it safe to use with methadone.
 
It's a vaile 10mg/1ml. 100ml vaile. ketamidof is the name. the dose of metahode just keeps my of the sick no nods or anything. normaly i use to take the methadone and then take heroin IV and loads of benzo's. so i'm not that worrid about respiratory depression. Or should i? And yes here in the netherlands you can take heroin whille on MMT.
 
ketamine IV

anyone else experimenting with this carefully? it has some excellent results at lower doses , feelings of reawakening , euphoria , 'above dillusions' increased intelligence and awareness , grounding of unwanted heavy energy , more in depth look into people.........i've been opening up to heroin addicts as an alternative and it's actually working as a way to 'rechannel' pain and make them think a bit differently . i would advise no more than 8th-1/4 of a gram to start and sit on a bed , it can switch you off for a second or two and you can fall over and also , nill by mouth 1/2 hours before dose

psydemon , uk

x
 
and after a few years on insufflating , my nose is in poor shape , oh the joys of testing drugs to help mankind achieve higher states of wellbeing!
 
ive just started a new thread on ketamine iv , it really works at low doses , im working with heroin addicts as we speak and its really starting to pick up , im not a heroin user myself just ketamine. ive found it does lock pain to some degree and also calms them down , small doses though as i have watched some pretty strange things going on , ive been a regular user for a few years so know my way around and how to avoid k-holes , the best way is to avoid alcohol this is very dangerous while iv as it can make you vomit while you detatch and also , do not do it after being awake for a long time , the mind is tired and lets go further , its pretty scary . also , avoid doing it in the dark , the mind needs light to reattach and reawaken , ive tried this insufflating and scared the shit out of myself, it took my a while to come round from deep fear which was extremely unpleasent. and dont eat or drink for a couple of hours before because the stomach relaxes and can spasm , ive come around on the floor after falling of a chair and noticed a pile of vomit in front of me which also made me sick , the beauty with ketamine , is that in its purest state you dont need a lot , even a nice lines worth in distilled water in the barrel is enuf , but be quick as a 10ml shot can recrystalise pretty fast , and stay on the sofa until you ground and'reawaken' refreshed and reset.

happy experimenting ;-)
 
not me , but a month on ket hmmmm......tranquil , calm and slightly defunkt with a new perspective on life....
 
Personally I love IV' K, and I'm on 100mg methadone per day. I've never had problems with respiratory depression, but thats just me so be careful. Generally ketamine only causes respiratory depression for a few seconds to a min when IV'ed quickly. If you dont want one of the most intense hallucinogenic experiences of your life....then dont do it. I however think its BEAUTIFUL ;)


check out this thread http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=432832
 
i just took a 20mg dose and 5 min after a 40mg does ok ketamine. Feelt really nice can i try the K hole straigt after? the doses where IM

BTW i way 65kg/120lb( i think)

70mg schould be good for the K hole right?
 
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70mg would be good for a hole if your tolerence isn't too high....but remember, be VERY CAREFUL to inject fast and get the needle out and lay down before it hits....otherwise you can pass out or fall before you get the needle out of your arm (not good). IV K really can be dangerous and I'm not advocating this ROA for the inexperienced, so if you're gonna try doses in the anaesthetic range make sure to have someone there with you until you get a feel for it. That way they can remove the syringe if you pass out too quick, or give any other assistance that might be needed. I've found this to be a very rewarding trip, but there is NO room for mistakes like there is with other hallucinogens..... trip hard, be safe ;)

p.s. I should be getting some K tomorrow for the first time in a couple years for me so I'm excited.
 
ooops....you're talking IM....70 would be low I think, but better to work your way up slowly. I'd go for 100 personally, depending on your tolerance....perhaps 90mg? And as a cautionary messure....don't use it if you're heavily sedated on anything else (taking extra methadone, etc.) Best to wait for the sedating effects to wear off.... And benzos will ruin the psychedelic feel.
 
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