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Dissociatives [Ketamine Subthread] Dosage and Methods of Administration

Crushing = More surface area = More contact with nasal membranes. May cause more burn but i'd rather have burn than lacerations. Those crystals can travel up your snoot at high velocity.
 
e1evene1even said:
Do most people who use ketamine nasally crush it into a fine powder first? The stuff I have is very small salt like crystals which up until recently I just used as is. Then I tried crushing it into a fine powder and found that the burn is much worse and I don't quite like it as much.

Does it make much difference?
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might be worth diluting with a little water and reevapourating it into a nice fluffy powder. You get more product this way
 
^ Have I missed some important meeting on the conservation of matter? If you get more by dissolving & evaporating I'm going to just keep repeating the process until my 1g has turned into 10kg =D

Sorry I'm in a rather sarcastic mood due to lack of porridge this morning...
 
I disagree. My first time I did a nice line about an inch long and progessivly took bumps throughout the night. I like to start with a medium-to-high dose and slowly work my way up if necessary. Sometimes, I just like to dose once(assuming I got the perfect amount, which can be rare) and not have to worry about doing bumps every few minutes.
But everyone's different and everyone does their drugs differently. :\
 
lets presume im gettin a gram of pure k for 40 dollars, can i jus drop this g in sterile bacsteroic(sp?) water and then im it?
 
privatecaller said:
lets presume im gettin a gram of pure k for 40 dollars, can i jus drop this g in sterile bacsteroic(sp?) water and then im it?
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Do you *know* it's pure or is it a matter of trust?
I'd think at least twice before injecting any substance.
 
in my expierence i have always found ketamine to be less potent when the powder is put back into a liquid solution rather than using the original liquid.
any one else ?
 
e1evene1even said:
I'd be interested to know more about it, especially the method of administration and the timing and amounts of the dose(s).
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Some stuff that may or may not answer your questions:

First I crush (glass crusher on a mirror) the grains into a very fine powder.
Then I lay out a couple of small lines (10-20mg or so) and do those 2 (got two nostrils...) at a time.
I've found that doing small lines is a lot more effective than railing big ones.
Definitely more pleasant too.
My nose likes it better too and much more K enters the bloodstream directly instead of dripping down my throat and going the oral route.
I try to snort a bit every 1-3 minutes, but once it's working really well that often becomes a bit problematic.
Time quickly starts to warp and occasionally loop or even run backward.
At that point it's not much of an issue, I just snort some when I think of it or feel like it.
As soon as it's unfolded the way I like it I only do the occasional maintenance dose.
If/when tolerance becomes an issue i.e. I need more than say a gram a night, I take a break of 10-20 days.

I usually sit or stand/walk, always with my eyes open.
In that manner I consciously avoid K-holing as it's not much use to me.
Fun yes but I don't get much else out of it. It does happen but it's rare.

K seems to mess with coordination like alcohol but that's not true, it's more like it slows reactions down so the timing is off. Hence the perceived clumsiness.
Activities that require coordination but not speed are as easy or easier than when sober.
Hatha yoga practice is greatly enhanced, possibly more so than with any other psychedelic. Except that I'm unable to do a headstand on K for the mentioned reason.

Anyway I often keep going like this for 6-10 hours.

I get no lethargy or hangover symptoms, and always feel great afterwards and the next day(s).
After LSD/mushrooms etc I don't like to work or work out the day after. No problem with K.

I'm totally unable to describe the K experience itself.
I can sort of explain about LSD etc but not K.
Weirdness.
 
Do you get full-on psychedelic effects from doses as small as 40-50mg? I would be really out of it on that amount (I don't have a tolerance to it), but its far below what I would use for a trip. On those amounts its more like I'm half retarded and have a toddler's attention span. To get a fully immersive experience... the existing as light, floating in alternate realities, "waking up and realizing I control the universe" type effects (losing all awareness of conventional reality and concept of self), about 125mg is the minimum amount; and thats just for the initial dose. If i keep going it has to be escalated.

Are you injecting it? or not seeking something that strong?
 
Do you get full-on psychedelic effects from doses as small as 40-50mg? I would be really out of it on that amount (I don't have a tolerance to it), but its far below what I would use for a trip. On those amounts its more like I'm half retarded and have a toddler's attention span. To get a fully immersive experience... the existing as light, floating in alternate realities, "waking up and realizing I control the universe" type effects
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I get pretty psychedelic effects from 50mg of s-ketamine (I don't have a tolerance), not full immersion but pretty nice. Yesterday, I had taken maybe 30mg before the 50mg, but it had mostly wore off at that point. I get the feeling I may be only on the tip of the iceburg though :) As for the "waking up and realizing I control the universe" effect, I know EXACTLY what you are talking about. It was quite unexpected so I didn't really go fully into the experience. Its reassuring to know you've been there and back a few times.

I'd say the yogic concept of "pratyahara" pretty much covers it.
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Good ol' Patanjali, that concept seems about right. Some of the experiences reported by ketamine users seem to leap right out of the pages of eastern esoteric texts. It makes me really want to get some alpha-endopsychosin (cas# 99638-41-2) and to see how that compares to both ketamine and some of the more far out mystical experiences reported by meditators.
 
Ketamine fluke produces sober peak?

Recently I insufflated a 150mg dose from the same batch of Ketamine that all my previous experiences are based on, so it is not bunk material. Normally I smoke marijuana before the ketamine to have that unique combination, but this time I decided to go solo with just ketamine.

The 150mg that was dosed seemed to have a normal comeup but when it should have reached its peak at around 5 minutes after dosing I became extremely sober. I was operating as if I had never taken the dose and had no disorientation that accompanies ketamine nor the mindset. I have many experiences with just ketamine and no marijuana, but this "fluke" that occured has happened once before with a solo ketamine experience as well.

I am just wondering if there is some kind of explanation or if others have encountered this phenomenon. Again i assure you the material is not bunk/degraded as I have had successful trips with this same batch after this event has occured. Background: I normally like to take a dose anywhere from 50mg-100mg in combination with marijuana, but have taken up to 200mg many times. (I am not on any medications nor have eaten anything outside my normal diet prior to the trip). Also, I had no tolerance at the time of dosing, as it had been a month before my last ketamine trip, and months before the time before that.
 
WoW!!

Whats up guys? not much here been away for a few weeks experimenting.... Well is anyone else into IV'ing K? Man its amazing and by no means for the feeble minded. I mean.... I've seen things.....
 
I highly recommend eating Ketamine, for those who don't want to IM or IV for understandable reasons.

200mg S-Ketamine in a gel cap = 5 mini K-Holes and a 10 mile high lattice work grid city built above my head.

Onset was about 10 minutes, then it hit like a freight train.

Duration was about 35 minutes for the peak (part where I couldn't communicate) and then another hour and a half of still feeling it.

I will never snort Ketamine again.


S-Ketamine is much more potent than racemic Ketamine orally. I took 500mg of racemic Ketamine orally a few years ago and while I was in a longer duration K-Hole, it was much less lucid and downright fascinating, pure abstract art, as the S-Ketamine oral experience was.
 
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